How much 1.0 lore is still canon, and what is the link between Roegadyn and Dragons?!

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The Roegadyn are a maritime people whose largest concentrations are found in the northern seas, by way of which they came to Eorzea.

So they are from North of Eorzea, makes sense why they inhabited Abalathia, and them being in LL makes sense if the Seawolves are supposed to be like vikings (they went everywhere by sea, even far away places).

The Sea Wolves hail from the islands of the far north seas, where they subsist as fishermen and -women. Long ago, no vessel or coastal village was safe from their maritime brand of brutality. Now, it is not uncommon to see them employed as sailors or naval mercenaries on all manner of vessels.

Just more reinforcement of the idea that Roegadyn come from North of Eorzea, why else is it "the northern sea". As far as I can see we can't see said Northern Sea on any map of Eorzea at the moment.

The Hellsguard are a clan of Roegadyn with body and mind tempered by the unforgiving heat of the volcanic regions they inhabit. Believing the mountains of flame to be gates to the underworld, their line has for centuries stood vigil over them to prevent the passage of souls back to the realm of the living. Their sheer girth and steely demeanor open to the Hellsguard a wide range of paths, from the martial to the monastic.

As they hail from the volcanoes of Abalathia's Spine, they have no real city to call their own (and many Hellsguard seem to like it that way). If they are to be found in number in any city-state, it is in Ul'dah, where there is no shortage of the sort of sell-sword work that many wandering Hellsguard engage in - and no shortage of coin with which to pay them.

Ok so Hellsguard are from Abalathia's Spine and inhabit Volcanoes around the region.


The Abalathia's Spine region is the entire northern mountain region of Eorzea, it’s pretty big, we can only go to a small portion of it, most of it has been inaccessible to us until airship technology became more widespread. The closest region other than the 2.0 regions to Abalathia's Spine are the Dravanian regions. Filled with dragons and their ancient tongue.

We learn from the lore Q&A

Every dragon has a name in the base draconian tongue, including the more prominent figures such as Bahamut, Vidofnir, Midgardsormr, etc. The 'Eorzean' names have been earned through the dragons' interactions with past civilizations. The elder dragons (especially those of Midgardsormr's first brood) have spent thousand (tens-of-thousands) of years roaming about Hydaelyn. During that time, they have come in contact with many different peoples--some primitive, some advanced. Some with which they warred, some with which they fostered peace. Those peoples gave the dragons names in their own tongues. Some were based on existing words in those tongues, while others were phonetic interpretations, bastardizations, and subsequent degradations of a language that they could not accurately pronounce. These names took hold amongst the people of Eorzea, being passed down orally and in print, and effectively became the second names of the dragons. Rather than fight this, it was ultimately easier for the dragons to simply allow man to call them what they wished. Some of the dragons have even grown fond of these names, choosing to use them even when speaking with other dragons (who would otherwise know them by their draconian names).

Some dragons have very nordic sounding names. They may have been given by the Elezen who met them from their own tongue, or it could be sort of a bastardization of the original dragonspeak.

Roegadyn language (originally, Hellsguard or Lohengarde took the Eorzean common tongue) is based loosely off Northern Germanic languages (Scandinavian region, Vikings basically) and here we have Dragons with names taken out of norse mythology (the same languages).

My questions:

• Did Elezens speak sort of a proto germanic language?

  Looking at Frankish, yeah its more Germanic, but not like norse languages at all, so this is not likely. Elezen language is shown to be more French, even in Ishgard.

• Instead were they just trying to emulate dragonspeak?
  For Example:

  The Whilom River -> wa[h]r a[h]lm (calm water)

  Mare’s Oath -> ma[h]r ro[h]s (summer woken)

  Halo -> w[h]ei lo[h]s (the path to loneliness)

  Seems entirely more likely.

• How did roegadyn's language end up so similar to the names of these dragons (names given by man)?

  I could be looking too much into it, but like SERIOUSLY, Fernehawles is always one step ahead of me, and like me he's totally a linguistic nerd, and unlike me he got to work on 1.0 (lore cohesion) So I'm thinking there's a link between the roegadyn language and dragonspeak in general, or maybe some Roegadyn myths got turned into Eorzean myths over time / assimilation and the people grew to know those names of dragons through roegadyn (less likely imo).

• Is the lore about where roegadyn come from still good lore?

  Seems like it since the 2.0 website still lists them from hailing from the Northern Seas and Hellsguard are still from Abalathia's Spine.