Every time I decide to play Ast, I find a thread that destroys my enthusiasm.

[Velox]

But thank you both for being so hostile though. It sure encourages people to post their own pov on the class.
You both seem to have missed that I enjoy this class the most and it is my main currently.

I am not hostile, my friend, I am merely blunt. I learned a long time ago that if you sugar-coat things, people won't listen. So I just tell things as they are both online and in real life.
I'm merely clearing up misunderstandings. You're fine to have an opinion on something, I'm just making sure you have all the facts. An opinion based off false information is not an opinion at all

I'm glad you're enjoying the job. I play on my cousin's AST all the time in Savage Alex and love the job. Definitely a powerful main healer when coupled with a SCH. I'm sure WHM will get some buffs in coming patches to bring it back up to par with the other two.

[416to305]

There's nothing wrong with that. However, there is something wrong with you not noticing your MP going faster when you use LA and you not noticing that Refresh is an MP/TP thing when the tooltips for the Ewer and the Spire also say that the cards add a refresh effect, just like LA. If you're not going to read up guides, at least read up the Actions and Traits menu.

Hardly. Stop acting like LA takes you from 0 MP to 100% in 5 seconds or something, because if you pop it while in the middle of battle it's not obvious your MP is going up since you're still using it just as fast as it is being refreshed. Unless your text chat is set to show how much MP you recover, then it's not very obvious.

It's also not obvious that Refresh means it restores MP, and is a big issue with this game as the tool tips give half the info. Like abilities that Stun, Blind, Heavy, obviously I know what they mean but only after using Google, as it doesn't tell you in the tool tip. Even in game help has nothing that explains buffs or debuffs, and I have checked many times. Actions and Traits say nothing about what it does. It doesn't even pop up the green numbers over you like Regen does.

Can I offer you a tip though if you actually want people to take you seriously on here? Please have the game open before posting nonsense or trying to remember what something does. LA says "Additional effect: Refresh" that is all. Ewer says "Refreshes MP of a party member or self." Spire says "Refreshes TP of a party member or self." So by your logic, the person is supposed to know that LA Refreshes MP only, based on the exact same tool tip for Ewer and Spire, yet Spire is for TP?

Bunny, If you apply LA and hover it, it says "Gradually restoring MP while reducing enmity." So remember too that once something is applied, the buff description is sometimes more helpful once it's applied and is often a bit different than just the tool tip.

[416to305]

Aww I love you <3 Thank you for the tip mate and the positive post. I appreciate it

And yes, rabbits are the best. I have 3 in real life <3

Awesome haha. Another tip I have is when you get higher up, or at 60, spend 20 minutes sometime and just read the Job abilities under the Action and Traits menu. If any are unclear, then I google it to understand. Reading them when you first start isn't overly helpful as there's so many to remember and most you won't understand. Once you've hit 60 or even 50 and have used them, then it's easier to go in and read to make sure you're using them right and post on here if you need clarification.

[BunnyHop]

Hardly. Stop acting like LA takes you from 0 MP to 100% in 5 seconds or something, because if you pop it while in the middle of battle it's not obvious your MP is going up since you're still using it just as fast as it is being refreshed. Unless your text chat is set to show how much MP you recover, then it's not very obvious.

It's also not obvious that Refresh means it restores MP, and is a big issue with this game as the tool tips give half the info. Like abilities that Stun, Blind, Heavy, obviously I know what they mean but only after using Google, as it doesn't tell you in the tool tip. Even in game help has nothing that explains buffs or debuffs, and I have checked many times. Actions and Traits say nothing about what it does. It doesn't even pop up the green numbers over you like Regen does.

Can I offer you a tip though if you actually want people to take you seriously on here? Please have the game open before posting nonsense or trying to remember what something does. LA says "Additional effect: Refresh" that is all. Ewer says "Refreshes MP of a party member or self." Spire says "Refreshes TP of a party member or self." So by your logic, the person is supposed to know that LA Refreshes MP only, based on the exact same tool tip for Ewer and Spire, yet Spire is for TP?

Bunny, If you apply LA and hover it, it says "Gradually restoring MP while reducing enmity." So remember too that once something is applied, the buff description is sometimes more helpful once it's applied and is often a bit different than just the tool tip.

Thank you once again for another good tip.
And i totally agree with your first 2 pharagraphs. I seriously thought that Refresh meant that it refreshes an ability. In LA's case, it refreshes the enmity reduction.

I never thought of applying said buff and checking the description though. I am always too busy healing to check the description, so I am at fault of that.

Awesome haha. Another tip I have is when you get higher up, or at 60, spend 20 minutes sometime and just read the Job abilities under the Action and Traits menu. If any are unclear, then I google it to understand. Reading them when you first start isn't overly helpful as there's so many to remember and most you won't understand. Once you've hit 60 or even 50 and have used them, then it's easier to go in and read to make sure you're using them right and post on here if you need clarification.

I am lvl 60 already and am at ilvl 190. The day before yesterday I even had the chance to try out Thordan EX, which went decent on my part, I am decent (good) at healing. Although we had to abandon it after wiping a few times because some dps and tank kept dying on certain mechanics. It was a practise party anyways and I learned a few mechanics so I am happy

But I will take the time to re-read everything and practise on a party member.

Once again thank you for your positivity, it's been an immense help for me.
*huggles*

[TatoRazzino]

crying

The crying didn't stop when AST was buffed (in 3.07), it stopped when Ghishlain posted the link to the AST solo healing A3S after 3.1. Read what other people say before replying.

The tooltip does not give you half the info; you not geing able to read what things mean and learn how their work is not a tooltip problem.

I know what the AST tooltips say, and it's pretty clear that refresh is related to resource recovery. It's not rocket science to understand what the LA refresh means from the card tooltips, so please just stop trying to make it look like as if it is. The refresh effect is easily noticeable if you're paying attention, which Bunny clearly wasn't.
Being casual does not excuse anyone from trying to be better. Casual players come in here all the time saying that things are either too hard or broken simply because they can't do it from not even trying or learning the basics about their jobs.

I'm also under no obligation of sugar coating anything for your convenience. Learn to deal with people being better than you at stuff you want to be good at. The fact that only 1% of people can do something (clearing Dusk Vigil? Really?) is irrelevant in this case. If only 1% of people cleared Savage on Week 1 as AST that means there's absolutely no excuse for you not being able to clear a DUNGEON when HW was launched. Honestly, people should be ashamed of coming to the forums to say that a job is broken when they can't clear dungeons. That's a level of arrogance that can't be measured.
And yes, the word is arrogance. It's not humble at all to assume that you're not responsible for your own failures; people didn't come in here looking for help to learn their job better. They came stating that the job was broken because it was inconceivable to them that there was any possibility that they weren't playing it properly. So please, if you want to be taken seriously in here, start trying harder and stop saying things you know nothing about.

[416to305]

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K just a heads up this is the last time I'm replying to you as you're just on here to waste peoples time, so just a warning anything you spend time writing will be ignored moving forward so will save you some time. YOU said that Bunny should have figured out LA Refresh means MP because "Ewer and Spire say the same thing." Now you're trying to say we're supposed to just assume it must mean MP. Right. That's called contradicting yourself.

You also didn't read what I said either. I didn't say I couldn't clear Dusk Vigil, it's insanely easy. I said I'd done it tons of times as WHM back when it first came out when everyone's gear was low, and I had no problems with it. But when playing it on AST with the same gear, we could still CLEAR it but I found I had far less time to DPS and was healing a lot more and it just seemed overall harder than WHM. Maybe it was bad parties pulling too much, but it wasn't impossible to clear it, just a definite difference from using WHM. I didn't touch it for ages after that, went back to AST and every dungeon since was a breeze. It felt totally different, even having the cards last longer was a huge improvement to the point that like I said I was sure something was changed, and came online to see all the improvements. This was maybe 2 weeks after 3.1. You're arguing over a moot point, the fact is they made changes to the class from when it was launched. So you can tell yourself all you want that there was nothing wrong with it, but SE (the actual makers of the game) disagree with you.

BTW nice come back regarding you not reading the tooltips before posting on here, you just used the exact same line on me that I used on you! Real original.

Once again thank you for your positivity, it's been an immense help for me.
*huggles*

No problem at all glad to help. Honestly you have to ignore people like the one above on here, they come on here acting like they are so elite because the live in the game and expect everyone to be some kind of expert. I like killing time browsing these forums but there's been so many times I've wanted to just quit the game because of the ignorant people on here, not even in the actual game! Feel free to private msg me if you need any help or anything, this thread is too frustrating so not going to bother reading it any further since I've spent enough time correcting Tato.

[TatoRazzino]

1/12/16 - the day in which expecting a healer to watch their MP bar and know how to interpret the tooltip became an elitist practice. Let us all remember that in the future.

[VanilleFang]

No body is saying you can't use it or that it is a bad idea. If I am right about which thread(s) you are referring to.. they are just discussions and nit-picking. No one is saying AST is useless or unusuable, just that it is lacking in some aspects (mostly compared to SCH).

[TatoRazzino]

No body is saying you can't use it or that it is a bad idea. If I am right about which thread(s) you are referring to.. they are just discussions and nit-picking. No one is saying AST is useless or unusuable, just that it is lacking in some aspects (mostly compared to SCH).

It's not that thread about the best, it's some others that died a couple weeks ago

[VanilleFang]

It's not that thread about the best, it's some others that died a couple weeks ago

Oooh. lol Okay.