Every time I decide to play Ast, I find a thread that destroys my enthusiasm.

[Ghishlain]

If you enjoy AST, play AST. All the healers work well and if you aren't challenging the hardest rungs of content, it won't matter which healer you pick.

[416to305]

You also have to remember what kind of content you want. When people talk about one class being better than another, they are talking for things like Savage where every second counts. Or when they talk about being main healer vs secondary. I've never ever had someone tell me they are main or secondary and I've never even paid attention or noticed. If you see the other healer has cleric up and is doing DPS, then put a bit more effort into healing to cover them and they do the same. But it will change, as there will be times you will be doing the DPS and they cover for you. It's really more the Savage content where roles are more defined and required. I myself don't play any savage content, but have done most other level 60 stuff as WHM and AST and I have no problem with either of them. I play AST just because it's more fun as WHM just feels boring to me now since I've always played it. So AST has been my main for months and I love it. I'm at 55 for SCH (as of 5 minutes ago) but I'm not really sure. I love shielding people and I think Galvanize is cooler looking than Nocturnal Field, but I miss AoE healing. I prefer playing AST in Nocturnal Sect mainly because I like shielding more than just healing as it's different than WHM.

[BunnyHop]

I love healing, and I love doing it as AST. I fell in love with this class the first day I took the AST quest and healed my first dungeon.

Now I am doing end game content with it and I really love it, it makes me think and use its utility to the full.


My only complaints about this class are the mana drainage:

- Benefic is too weak in healing in my opinion.

- Most skills, including your main healing skill which is Benefic 2, cost too much mana.
- AST doesn't have any skill to get mana back, except the Ewer card which is too random, and the buff it gives is too small.
- When you die as an AST during a fight and you get ressed, you are extremely crippled due to your mana being lost (and not being able to get it back up properly)


But that being said, I really love this class and am determined to make it work in every content.

[DarkmoonVael]

I love healing, and I love doing it as AST. I fell in love with this class the first day I took the AST quest and healed my first dungeon.

Now I am doing end game content with it and I really love it, it makes me think and use its utility to the full.


My only complaints about this class are the mana drainage:

- Benefic is too weak in healing in my opinion.

- Most skills, including your main healing skill which is Benefic 2, cost too much mana.
- AST doesn't have any skill to get mana back, except the Ewer card which is too random, and the buff it gives is too small.
- When you die as an AST during a fight and you get ressed, you are extremely crippled due to your mana being lost (and not being able to get it back up properly)


But that being said, I really love this class and am determined to make it work in every content.

I what.......this post is one of the problems when it comes to AST, becuase this post is full of utter rubbish.

Benefic is cheaper than physick or cure and heals for the same amount. If you think AST spells are too expensive then lord help WHM/SCH with their spell cost.

All healing skills of AST are cheaper than their WHM/SCH direct counterpart.

Luminiferous Aether gives exactly the same mana back as Shroud of Saints, can be extended by 5 secs by Celestial Opposition and then you also have the ewer card. So it does have a skill to get mana back, its unlocked at a significantly lower level then Shroud of Saints and how the hell have you missed one of the key abilities AST has whilst playing it?

AST has exactly the same problem when it dies as SCH and WHM do. No healers come back to life with more mana than the others. All three healers have to wait until their mana restore skills are back or have promoted bishop/mana song to get mana back.

This is the type of rubbish post that does AST no good. Not one of these things is true in the slightest. Learn AST better.

[AskaRay]

Remember when HW was brand new and everyone and their mom said things like "Man Bard is awful now and it's destroyed, will never recover" blah blah etc.
You know what I did, as a BRD main?

...kept playing the job I like the most.

TLDR Just play what you want. Unless you're in one of the three, four FC raiding groups that goes for World First clears on Day One you don't have to worry much about party composition.

[Velox]

You seem to have a gross misunderstanding of how AST works, so I'll break things down a bit for you.

My responses are in red

- Benefic is too weak in healing in my opinion.
Benefic has the same potency as Cure...
- Most skills, including your main healing skill which is Benefic 2, cost too much mana.
Benefic II is not your main healing spell, Benefic is
- AST doesn't have any skill to get mana back, except the Ewer card which is too random, and the buff it gives is too small.
Luminiferous Aether would like to have a word with you, and it has the same refresh rate as Shroud of Saints
Then you also have to take into account that all AST heal spells cost 10% less MP than WHM's heal spells while having the exact same potency.
Part of AST's mana managment doesn't require them to do anything, they are automatically spending less mana than the other 2 healers just EXISTING
- When you die as an AST during a fight and you get ressed, you are extremely crippled due to your mana being lost (and not being able to get it back up properly)
Already addressed above. WHM suffers these same problems when people die a lot. It's not a problem that's unique to AST.

[BunnyHop]

I what.......this post is one of the problems when it comes to AST, becuase this post is full of utter rubbish.

Benefic is cheaper than physick or cure and heals for the same amount. If you think AST spells are too expensive then lord help WHM/SCH with their spell cost.

All healing skills of AST are cheaper than their WHM/SCH direct counterpart.

Luminiferous Aether gives exactly the same mana back as Shroud of Saints, can be extended by 5 secs by Celestial Opposition and then you also have the ewer card. So it does have a skill to get mana back, its unlocked at a significantly lower level then Shroud of Saints and how the hell have you missed one of the key abilities AST has whilst playing it?

AST has exactly the same problem when it dies as SCH and WHM do. No healers come back to life with more mana than the others. All three healers have to wait until their mana restore skills are back or have promoted bishop/mana song to get mana back.

This is the type of rubbish post that does AST no good. Not one of these things is true in the slightest. Learn AST better.

First of all, I am new to this job.

Secondly: The spell tip for "Luminiferous Aether" wasn't clear to me. I never knew that "Refresh" meant gaining mana back.
I always used this skill whenever I knew that there is lots of healing incoming, or whenever I have to dps. So long story short, I used it for the enmity solely.

And for me it seemed like managing my mana is a lot easier when I died and got ressed on my WHM. But again, mainly because I didn't know what Refresh meant up until this point.


Last but not least, calm down your tits a bit. Your hostile tone is very negative and it doesn't help me post my own opinion at all.

You seem to have a gross misunderstanding of how AST works, so I'll break things down a bit for you.

My responses are in red

What I said above, applies to you too...

About the Benefic part: I mostly end up using too much mana by using Benefic 2 the most because the tanks seem to eat up too much damage nowadays.



But thank you both for being so hostile though. It sure encourages people to post their own pov on the class.
You both seem to have missed that I enjoy this class the most and it is my main currently.

[AskaRay]

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What you can do with MP management is use LA at 80% or so, by the time the effect wears off you'll be in a good spot. Then just keep using it whenever it isn't on cooldown. You'll rarely run out of MP that way.

Benefic is still useful, since even if you have to chain cast it to keep a tank alive, the chance to proc the no-cast Bene II can help a lot with yoyo tanks.

To be fair they were a bit harsh but their advice is sound.

[BunnyHop]

What you can do with MP management is use LA at 80% or so, by the time the effect wears off you'll be in a good spot. Then just keep using it whenever it isn't on cooldown. You'll rarely run out of MP that way.

Benefic is still useful, since even if you have to chain cast it to keep a tank alive, the chance to proc the no-cast Bene II can help a lot with yoyo tanks.

To be fair they were a bit harsh but their advice is sound.

Thank you for the tip, I will do that from now on.

[DarkmoonVael]

First of all, I am new to this job.

Secondly: The spell tip for "Luminiferous Aether" wasn't clear to me. I never knew that "Refresh" meant gaining mana back.
I always used this skill whenever I knew that there is lots of healing incoming, or whenever I have to dps. So long story short, I used it for the enmity solely.

And for me it seemed like managing my mana is a lot easier when I died and got ressed on my WHM. But again, mainly because I didn't know what Refresh meant up until this point.


Last but not least, calm down your tits a bit. Your hostile tone is very negative and it doesn't help me post my own opinion at all.




What I said above, applies to you too...

About the Benefic part: I mostly end up using too much mana by using Benefic 2 the most because the tanks seem to eat up too much damage nowadays.



But thank you both for being so hostile though. It sure encourages people to post their own pov on the class.
You both seem to have missed that I enjoy this class the most and it is my main currently.

Opinions are subjective, facts are objective.

When a pov on a class is based on nothing but misunderstandings on a class and passing them off as facts, thene expect people to call you out on them.

There is a distinct difference between these 2 statements: "i seem to have issue with AST mana" (subjective) and "AST doesnt have any skills to get mana back, except the ewer card which is too random, and the buff it gives too small" (trying to be objective, but catagorically untrue).

People reactions are based on passing off false information as facts.

Little bit of research goes a long way, especially in a thread where the OP is unsure about AST and needs FACTS to be correct. Research...it takes all of 2 mins.

What you can do with MP management is use LA at 80% or so, by the time the effect wears off you'll be in a good spot. Then just keep using it whenever it isn't on cooldown. You'll rarely run out of MP that way.

Benefic is still useful, since even if you have to chain cast it to keep a tank alive, the chance to proc the no-cast Bene II can help a lot with yoyo tanks.

To be fair they were a bit harsh but their advice is sound.

Dont forget that celestial opposition can extend LA by 5 secs, so you can hold off LA usageage sligtly longer in most content. Raids tend to have set times you will be needing to use LA anyway.