@Belhi: Ofcourse its not new the only problem is compared to how FFXI relic was and how certain dynamis gear was they where still something you could use endgame and where not outdated due to some treadmill progression. Its different when you look forward to doing something and be hyped for it than doing something that feels like a burden or chore that you already know that it will get nerfed around the corner. FFXI didn't nerf stuff in years here we nerf stuff every 3 weeks when the casual joes complain over the stuff they will most likely not do more than once anyways. I think whats really worse is how comfortable alot of FFXI players have gotten in this envoirment. I understand that some of us are older and don't have time anymore but we are still playing an MMORPG its meant to be time consuming.