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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    I agree with ElHeggunte... there's no reason, or precedent, to believe that adding GS events to DF would somehow increase people's interest in it, or that fewer people are doing it because it isn't. It's pure conjecture to claim it would somehow increase interest.
    Sure it probably won't directly increase interest, but it will increase participation. So more people actually get to try it, rather than sitting in square waiting for a match for 20 minutes, then saying "meh, this sucks."
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Sure it probably won't directly increase interest, but it will increase participation. So more people actually get to try it, rather than sitting in square waiting for a match for 20 minutes, then saying "meh, this sucks."
    This. And that would also likely lead to loss of attrition (players won't just give up for finding the game unplayable), which then means the word of mouth will be generally more positive, and therefore people won't shy away from it, thus, increase interest. It's pretty much math.

    Why would we need a precedent anwyho? It's not like we're talking about a trial involving old historic laws. It's a game.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashmin View Post
    Plus, DF could fix the issues of these tournaments by making it so you can't choose who you're up against. Even keep it server side instead of data center, make instanced content within the world, etc.
    The devs just have to do it how Chocobo racing queue works. Cross-Server, but still in the Gold Saucer. And a NPC as opponent if there is no other player at that time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Indeed. But dungeon participation would most certainly go down, because you can no longer quest, FATE or gather while you wait in queue.
    Not really.
    It can work like "go to the dungeon entrance and start the queue. Then you can do whatever you want during the queue, so long you don't change the zone."
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    Last edited by Felis; 01-02-2016 at 05:44 AM.

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    I know for a fact that I would participate in the minigames much more often if I could just queue up to them from anywhere. This change isn't supposed to increase interest in these minigames, but rather increase participation in them, because not everyone wants to set aside time of waiting in the minion square when they can be doing something else. Just imagine if the same were done for dungeons, people would be bored out of their mind because it forces them to stay in the same area until the queue is found, which will lead to people saying "Why cant I gather/craft/do fates while waiting for a dungeon? Waiting for a dungeon in a single spot is stupid and i'd much rather do something meanwhile im waiting."
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    This is the reason games these days are boring. Lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by RainDurell View Post
    I know for a fact that I would participate in the minigames much more often if I could just queue up to them from anywhere. This change isn't supposed to increase interest in these minigames, but rather increase participation in them, because not everyone wants to set aside time of waiting in the minion square when they can be doing something else. Just imagine if the same were done for dungeons, people would be bored out of their mind because it forces them to stay in the same area until the queue is found, which will lead to people saying "Why cant I gather/craft/do fates while waiting for a dungeon? Waiting for a dungeon in a single spot is stupid and i'd much rather do something meanwhile im waiting."
    I liked waiting outside dungeons and finding my own groups for them. Made them FAR more rewarding. I loved the "Open" dungeons as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I liked waiting outside dungeons and finding my own groups for them.
    "Liked"? Why the past tense? You can still do that if you like it o.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    "Liked"? Why the past tense? You can still do that if you like it o.o
    Ah, there is no point now.

    Nobody wants to do it because they don't do parties. Parties are also punished by less exp/reward.

    "You can still do it." however you get less gil, less experience, less reward, and its harder.

    So, there is really no point to doing it.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Ah, there is no point now.

    Nobody wants to do it because they don't do parties. Parties are also punished by less exp/reward.
    Huh? Parties get the same reward if queuing for a specific dungeon IIRC. I think you can even do the higher roulettes as a party and get the bonus, I know for a fact expert works with three people at least. Granted, people not wanting to do parties is a different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Huh? Parties get the same reward if queuing for a specific dungeon IIRC. I think you can even do the higher roulettes as a party and get the bonus, I know for a fact expert works with three people at least. Granted, people not wanting to do parties is a different story.
    You get a gil bonus for using duty finder actually. You also get an experience bonus, you also get a "do x amount of duties" to get even more experience. People also don't want to do parties when there is a much faster (in their mind(s)) way. You also get rewarded for doing it where you don't for partying up.

    There are some instances that don't even let you limit break unless you have duty finder.

    You also can't just "go inside a dungeon" you have to go through the duty finder to even go in.

    This game, face it. It is NOT meant to party up at all.

    Every. Single. Quest. In the game, was made for soloing besides a few.

    Open World is completely solo, nothing requires a group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainDurell View Post
    As the title says, is there a reason why we have to queue up for Chocobo Racing or Lords of Verminion within the Saucer?

    For me atleast, this is the main reason I dont do these minigames more often, which is a shame because I really like these minigames
    Cause this would make the gold saucer pointless as much of the game already is, cause everyone just stands around in one place and uses DF for everything.
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    Last edited by Lexia; 01-02-2016 at 08:15 AM.

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