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    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    That aside, players play "lazily" (I don't think that's the proper word for WM/GBless BRD/MCH) for one simple reason: It provides more enjoyment to that person. Thus, the question becomes:"At what point does the enjoyment gained by the person outweigh the enjoyment gained by the group?"

    It's not as clear cut as Kaurie likes to believe. If there's a detrimental performance choice that greatly improves your enjoyment but doesn't impede the enjoyment of others proportionally, you definitely "should" make it.
    Not talking about BRDs and MCH who do not use barrel and minuet, I already defended that point in an earlier post. I am talking about players who deliberately play worse, because they are lazy. (To clarify, this does not mean that all players who play worse are lazy) For example, A DPS who literally only uses auto-attacks.

    I also do not really understand why you are attempting to defend poor play. Yes, having fun is a huge part of the game, but when you are in a team game and you underperform you are hurting your team. Think of it like a sports game, you could join a team and maybe a) you are a bad player, but you're out there having fun and trying, b) you're probably an OK player but who cares if you win, so you just dick around on your cell phone and c) you are an awesome player who tries their best. I am currently talking about people B, they are the problem. Group A is not. I hope that helps clear it up?

    That said, people in Group A could learn to play better, and I feel that Square Enix does a poor job of encouraging this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I also do not really understand why you are attempting to defend poor play.
    Because if everyone was playing well, I couldn't get commendations that way anymore!

    Coeurls's out the bag, masterplan revealed. Now I shall twirl my non-existent mustache.

    On a more serious note: Explaining that would lead far offtopic. Let's just say a truckload of bad experiences with the performance paradigm. That aside, we're (most likely) talking about completely different things. I am still referring to the quote that people should always make the objectively better choice and maintain the position that this is not necessarily so and there should be room for tolerance. You are talking about people that are effectively AFK, which is a case that's obviously very far outside the realm of tolerance.
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