Why do so many people FAIL at dps.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Ok, let me rephrase this, since its incredibly hard for you to understand.

He used Tri disaster. Then he used bane. Then I assume he used painflare till he build up dreadwyrm trance, then he used deathflare. then he spammed ruin 3.

On a pack of 6+ mobs.

He spammed ruin 3, till he had 1000 mp left. then he just spammed ruin. His DoTs wore off on the pack of mobs at about 75% of their HP. He never reapplied them.

Tell me how this is a good smn please.

That's exactly the point thought. It would be even worse had you try to give "advice" to a player when you haven't even played the job. As for anything else you're not going to see them use bio 2 for example more than once per minute and if they use their SC on bio II (for some reason) then you will never see them cast bio II at all. It's like you complain about a blm never using not spamming fire I at level 60 when you don't even know that you don't spam fire I at level 60 (because you never played blm past 50) and make a post on how a player didn't spam fire I in a dungeon at 60 and never used thunder (there's a legitimate reason for not using thunder in UI).

I have a bunch of friends who play smn and are actually good at it. So I know what to look for. As for the BLM thing, I know you don't spam fire 1. But then, you are just assuming I dont know anything about blm because I said I didnt know one skill on smn didnt use aetherflow.

I'd throw some numbers out on this smn, but thats looked down on, and I dont feel like getting people banned.

[Andrea]

That's exactly the point thought. It would be even worse had you try to give "advice" to a player when you haven't even played the job.

I don't want to involve myself in the conversation you have going here but just wanted to say that you don't necessarily have to have played the job at 60 to be able to give advice. Sure you need to know how the job plays at 60 but that could come from sources outside playing the class yourself.

Hell I myself don't have warrior/monk/ninja to 60 but I could still offer good advice on how to play them.

[VisRalis]

Shit dies, duty finder dungeon finished under around 25mins or less
Honestly don't care to point fingers at who did better or worse 8D

But would definitely give commendation to the player who showed that they were putting attention into what they were doing and showing team work.

[Ayuhra]

17. Solutions?

18. SE either fixes the problem or you find another way to spend your time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I hope that FFXIV eventually takes more notes from World of WarCraft. Now, WoW ain't perfect so I am certainly not saying I want a WoW clone. If I want the WoW experience I play WoW and trust me as much as I've loved that game it is a hollowed out carcass of its former self at this point. However, Yoshi-P has said WoW gives him inspiration so why not take inspiration from WoW PvE? It is quite possibly the only thing that game has consistently done well.

Prune the abilities of the classes, simplify and streamline rotations, and shift the difficulty from mechanically perfect execution to encounter design. I know people balk at the idea of ability pruning. WoW did it kind of badly in some cases, stripping individual classes of identity in the process. I think Yoshi-P can learn from that mistake as he's learned from other mistakes Blizzard has made. Pruning can be done well, I'm sure. Personally, I love an interesting raid encounter. I know I haven't done much raiding in this game but I've done some. Primals can be fairly cool but even they could be spiffed up. WoW is excellent for big, spectacular insane fights. FFXIV could be better, especially considering that the core games in the series are the kings of over the top bosses in an RPG setting.

Trading complexity of rotation for complexity of bosses is a trade I'd be willing to make.

(Why do I think both is not possible? I've considered this and a lot of it just comes down to imagination. I am trying to see WoW players tackle something like Blackhand with the rotations of FFXIV and I am pretty sure it would give the playerbase a communal brain hemorrhage.)

[Kewitt]

Bad Healer get kicked.
Bad Tanks get Kicked.
Bad DPS get carried.

That's about it!

Nothing else needs to be said.
If you kicked a bad DPS because your parsing, You kind of need to say something. OMG DPSX your numbers sucks. quit the game. Vote kick. then they reports you because you pointed out you said numbers to GM.
Tank died/can't hold hate... kick. No parsing needed to know they are bad.
Healer can't keep people alive... kick. No parsing needed to know they are bad.

As a tank grinding turn 4 someone random said Ewitt your numbers are low pick it up. I reported to GM. I don't need that shit while playing a tank.

[Umo]

Because grabbing a parser, going for 3 minutes online to find a rotation for your job, logging into game > going to a dummy and try it out is mindblowing hard right?
There is a crapton of information out there on any class. go to google.com and type "your class" xiv rotation. Done. wow that hard?
Thats how you start learning, but the aforementioned people dont even do this. and it is unexcusable. its just being lazy. No one asks you to be top dps on ur server, but there is a minimum where you shouldnt drop off, and not using ur class properly despite high or low dps (dots and skills) is just a plain synthom of Lazyness. No ps3, no amiga, no atari, no dogs on the keyboard, no lag, nothing else.

You do know there are people new to MMORPGs, right? I know it may sounds crazy, but some people doesn't even know what "rotation" refers to.
Of course you can start learning how to play any given class by searching the internet, but that's not the only way. You can start learning how to play any given class by actually playing that class in-game, aswell, and that does not have to be related to plain laziness.
On the other hand, some people do not care about enhancing their combat playstyle and decide to play a class just the way they like to, and yet again, it's not necessarily a matter of laziness.

[Galan]

Game with dps checks needs proper meters. Devs are BEYOND STUPID if they think meters are not necessary.

If you don't have a PC then you can't check your dps without help from a friend who has a PC. That being said you don't need meters to do decent dps and many don't dps worth a damn. Why do i have to carry these people through content? If i started doing same bad dps the dungeon would never be cleared. I just did a level 50 dungeon other day on BLM where i did 400 dps on last boss and other blm did a whopping 92. Tank did 93. All synced. Carried much?

The class' are called dps cause there there to do dps. If your not doing that why bother?

And if you try to give pointers, well of course they know best how to play and all so they won't listen.

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

Recently, I have been playing on my laptop while visiting family and I am finding that playing at 10-14 fps really makes my DPS sink, so if anyone is in those same conditions, it will hamper their DPS, whether it be console or a bad PC, the input lag at such fps is annoying as hell.

Also, some people really do not know how to play their classes because most don't read their tooltips, its quite frustrating but the game does try to teach you somewhat, but it proves unsatisfactory, some DPS also don't care much to maximise DPS on trash mobs for some reason (had a SMN who wouldn't contagion bane because he said it didn't matter)

[RiceisNice]

You do know there are people new to MMORPGs, right? I know it may sounds crazy, but some people doesn't even know what "rotation" refers to.
On the other hand, some people do not care about enhancing their combat playstyle and decide to play a class just the way they like to, and yet again, it's not necessarily a matter of laziness.

The game does well enough to tell you how to combo and even highlights the abilities to do such (and they automatically place new abilties onto your skill bar as you obtain them). There's honestly no excuse for anyone to be doing less than say, 400....because thats how much I can do on my BRD by just spamming heavy shot. Any lower than that and you're afking to miss both GCDs and auto attacks.

[Fevelle]

"could even keep up shadow fang/mut"

There's lots of resons for mistaking the DoT timers, being: playing after a day drom work, your brain is tired and keeping up time is harder; lack of a personal timer making it almost impossible to keep track of DoTs when cycling through mobs; mechanic heavy fights or fights that recquire to keep track of every move from the boss on Focus (like Belladona).

Live with it. Embrace the fact that the average players is also average in skill and fails sometimes.