Why do so many people FAIL at dps.

[Kaurie]

The summoner he was talking about did some wizardry then because that's not how tri-disaster works... He literally typed bullshit and expected people who don't play summoner to believe him (which apparently worked...).

I mean the bigger issue was " instead of using ruin 3 while in dreadwyrm trance until it was almost over."

If there is 3+ mobs, you're better off using Blizzard II in Dread trance than Ruin III!

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I mean the bigger issue was " instead of using ruin 3 while in dreadwyrm trance until it was almost over."

If there is 3+ mobs, you're better off using Blizzard II in Dread trance than Ruin III!

That beginning of the post kind of made it clear that it was a made up story. It was pretty dubious in the first place that he knew every move that player was making. Also depending on what is going on in the fight, there is a legitimate reason for using deathflare before DWT runs out.

[RiceisNice]

The summoner he was talking about did some wizardry then because that's not how tri-disaster works... He literally typed bullshit and expected people who don't play summoner to believe him (which apparently worked...).

That's the point. I've gotten my fair share of players who have absolutely no idea on how their job functions. DRKs thinking that dorkside is a dps-exclusive stance and does't work with grit for one. BRDs that think foe reqieum lowers their damage is another.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The summoner he was talking about did some wizardry then because that's not how tri-disaster works... He literally typed bullshit and expected people who don't play summoner to believe him (which apparently worked...).

Umm.. Tri disaster applies Bio, Bio 2, and Miasma. How is what I said wrong? They would not apply DoT's in any other manner. Unless it doesnt take aetherflow stacks, which, even if that bit is wrong, they were still a bad smn :P its a 60 sec recast regardless, so they only applied DoT's ever 60 seconds. Aetherflow has a 60 second recast. Hence my confusion. And since they would lose a stack when they put DoTs on, thats where that thought came from.

No, i dont play smn, cuz I suck at it. I readily admit this. But I still have some base knowledge of how the class works.

I like that you picked the aetherflow bit as to why my post was complete BS, and ignored the rest of it though.

That beginning of the post kind of made it clear that it was a made up story. It was pretty dubious in the first place that he knew every move that player was making. Also depending on what is going on in the fight, there is a legitimate reason for using deathflare before DWT runs out.

As for this part. I was tanking, tabbing through targets. Its pretty obvious when you go through a fight and there are no DoTs. And he used deathflare instantly, every single time. Its not hard to pay attention to what other people are doing. Its what helped get my group through the Binding coils, since I was tanking, and able to see everything going on on the field and direct mechanics.

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Umm.. Tri disaster applies Bio, Bio 2, and Miasma. How is what I said wrong? They would not apply DoT's in any other manner. Unless it doesnt take aetherflow stacks, which, even if that bit is wrong, they were still a bad smn :P its a 60 sec recast regardless, so they only applied DoT's ever 60 seconds. Aetherflow has a 60 second recast. Hence my confusion. And since they would lose a stack when they put DoTs on, thats where that thought came from.

No, i dont play smn, cuz I suck at it. I readily admit this. But I still have some base knowledge of how the class works.

I like that you picked the aetherflow bit as to why my post was complete BS, and ignored the rest of it though.

You don't use aetherflow for tri-disaster and you don't lose aetherflow for putting on DoTs. You have no idea what you are talking about, which is why you shouldn't be talking about other player's jobs.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You don't use aetherflow for tri-disaster and you don't lose aetherflow for putting on DoTs. You have no idea what you are talking about, which is why you shouldn't be talking about other player's jobs.

Ok, so you are going to ignore the part where I said he didnt cast his dots unless he could use tri disaster? Cuz that was the whole point of this post, not that he was losing aetherflow. Ignore the whole aetherflow bit, and move on to the rest of it. You know, the important stuff.

I know you dont use aetherflows for applying Dots. I wasnt aware that tri disaster didnt use it, since thats a new skill and I havent leveled smn beyond 50.

You still ignored the rest of the post tho, and focused on aetherflow as why my post was wrong. Maybe you should learn to comprehend before calling someone out on what they said.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

You don't use aetherflow for tri-disaster and you don't lose aetherflow for putting on DoTs. You have no idea what you are talking about, which is why you shouldn't be talking about other player's jobs.

Wait... so they ninja fixed Bane and Fester so that they don't cost Aetherflow now? Hallelujah!

Edit: If they were only using Tri Disaster on Cooldown and were using an Aetherflow stack, anyone that plays SMN would know they would use either Fester, Bane, Energy Drain, or Painflare. These are all SMN moves that use Aether stacks, which from what it sounds like, the SMN was using one of the above, minus Bane, everytime they used Tri-Disaster and Aetherflow in tandem.

[Aomine1992]

This post has erupted into just another public shaming...my question to OP did you actually offer advice or just complain about these folks not using guass barrel or armor crush.....if not you are part of the bad dps equation for assuming something that the other person probably didn't even know....

There are some lazy dps but there are also ignorant(not knowing) ones...

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Wait... so they ninja fixed Bane and Fester so that they don't cost Aetherflow now? Hallelujah!

Edit: If they were only using Tri Disaster on Cooldown and were using an Aetherflow stack, anyone that plays SMN would know they would use either Fester, Bane, Energy Drain, or Painflare. These are all SMN moves that use Aether stacks, which from what it sounds like, the SMN was using one of the above, minus Bane, everytime they used Tri-Disaster and Aetherflow in tandem.

Didn't see mention of any of those in the post (of course they were conveniently not included, but the summoner had to be using them because the got to DWT). Just wanted to point out the obvious flaw here. Also being ignorant (of how summoner plays) don't not give the OP the excuse to post wrong information. Who knows what other wrong information he posted based off of his misconception of how the class played? For all we know, that guy was playing properly (he allegedly got to DTW after all) but the poster had no clue what he was even seeing.

Ok, so you are going to ignore the part where I said he didnt cast his dots unless he could use tri disaster? Cuz that was the whole point of this post, not that he was losing aetherflow. Ignore the whole aetherflow bit, and move on to the rest of it. You know, the important stuff.

I know you dont use aetherflows for applying Dots. I wasnt aware that tri disaster didnt use it, since thats a new skill and I havent leveled smn beyond 50.

You still ignored the rest of the post tho, and focused on aetherflow as why my post was wrong. Maybe you should learn to comprehend before calling someone out on what they said.

That's exactly the point thought. It would be even worse had you try to give "advice" to a player when you haven't even played the job. As for anything else you're not going to see them use bio 2 for example more than once per minute and if they use their SC on bio II (for some reason) then you will never see them cast bio II at all. It's like you complain about a blm never using not spamming fire I at level 60 when you don't even know that you don't spam fire I at level 60 (because you never played blm past 50) and make a post on how a player didn't spam fire I in a dungeon at 60 and never used thunder (there's a legitimate reason for not using thunder in UI).

[Neri]

You know what, I'm done. You guys want to twist my words, use dps logs against me and call me a troll, whatever, i'm done.

But did you not do the same on your op withthe machinist in question? Use the dps number to belittle him in the forum?