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    I had a lot of trouble with Dark Knight for the few games I played. I felt awfully squishy and with very little to offer to defend myself. I don't think it looked like I was even hitting particularly well either so I had a hard time finding it's use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knahli View Post
    I had a lot of trouble with Dark Knight for the few games I played. I felt awfully squishy and with very little to offer to defend myself. I don't think it looked like I was even hitting particularly well either so I had a hard time finding it's use.
    The most basic use of DRK with no tactical knowledge or skill is using Living Dead to node delay, being a defender and spamming skills such as Abyssal Drain to stay alive and delay the opponent from taking your node .

    Once you know your rotations and have experience, you can expand to deal damage in fights but if you want to do damage, you might as well pick a DPS in my opinion.

    They offer flying stuns and other nifty tricks but I feel jobs such as Paladin stun better and Warriors do more damage overall, their niche is living dead and disturbance AOE skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MihaelB View Post
    The most basic use of DRK with no tactical knowledge or skill is using Living Dead to node delay, being a defender and spamming skills such as Abyssal Drain to stay alive and delay the opponent from taking your node .

    Once you know your rotations and have experience, you can expand to deal damage in fights but if you want to do damage, you might as well pick a DPS in my opinion.

    They offer flying stuns and other nifty tricks but I feel jobs such as Paladin stun better and Warriors do more damage overall, their niche is living dead and disturbance AOE skills.
    Ah, it wasn't so much that I anticipated doing particularly nice damage, but I found it a lot more difficult than Paladin and I had trouble finding any avenue that compensated for the fact(other than node delay as you say, but I can do that on my Bard as well). It might have been partly down to not having the best equipment since I only even bothered trying it as DRK for the sake of some tomes, but I get the impression that it's not a class I would get the hang of very well in PvP when compared to Bard or Paladin.

    Of course, I'm not passing this as any evidence of it being a lacklustre class in PvP, just not something I personally manage well with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knahli View Post
    I had a lot of trouble with Dark Knight for the few games I played. I felt awfully squishy and with very little to offer to defend myself. I don't think it looked like I was even hitting particularly well either so I had a hard time finding it's use.
    Pop defensive cool downs preemptively, not when it's too late and you have the entire alliance beating on you.

    I like to Plunge right onto an enemy SMN and burst them down then be an annoying to healers after. Of course there are plenty of other things that can be done, and sometimes better plays are available, but if you do just this until you figure out how to DRK you'll at least be moderately useful.

    Don't forget Tar Pit in a nice tight pack of enemies is amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova_Rox View Post
    Pop defensive cool downs preemptively, not when it's too late and you have the entire alliance beating on you.

    I like to Plunge right onto an enemy SMN and burst them down then be an annoying to healers after. Of course there are plenty of other things that can be done, and sometimes better plays are available, but if you do just this until you figure out how to DRK you'll at least be moderately useful.

    Don't forget Tar Pit in a nice tight pack of enemies is amazing.
    Now that you mention it, I suppose a small part of the reason was that I had already exhausted my hotkeys on DRK much like I had on DRG, so PvP skills are always awkward and slow to deploy for me since I can't stand click-to-use keys unless it's something like Songs or Oaths which don't need very quick reaction times. It throws me a bit in that sense perhaps, though maybe I should give it another go at some point. His gear has improved a lot since and he still needs Esoterics so there'd be no harm trying I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knahli View Post
    Now that you mention it, I suppose a small part of the reason was that I had already exhausted my hotkeys on DRK much like I had on DRG, so PvP skills are always awkward and slow to deploy for me since I can't stand click-to-use keys unless it's something like Songs or Oaths which don't need very quick reaction times. It throws me a bit in that sense perhaps, though maybe I should give it another go at some point. His gear has improved a lot since and he still needs Esoterics so there'd be no harm trying I guess.
    That's terrible! PvP abilities are WAYYY too useful to not have easy access to them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova_Rox View Post
    That's terrible! PvP abilities are WAYYY too useful to not have easy access to them!
    I think my hotbars are incredibly more simplistic compared to most, haha. My third hotbar is primarily dedicated to emotes so it's very difficult to begin using it any differently and feels harder to perform since I have little practice with it.
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