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    Quote Originally Posted by Grafeit View Post
    But if the tank closes the gap on the ranged class they dominate ranged classes as well?
    Its much harder for tanks to close the gap compared to melee. No gap closers (Spineshatter Dive, Shoulder tackle, Overwhelm, etc), no enhanced movement speed (ninja without poison, Mnk's fists of wind) and no weapon throw to cancel opponents sprint and possibly heavy them. Hell Ninja even gets bind. If a tank gets close to a ranged they could destroy them but its still easier said than done without these tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grafeit View Post
    But if the tank closes the gap on the ranged class they dominate ranged classes as well?
    Full cooldowns available on all ends, it's not easy to get close to a ranged. Missing important cooldowns or sneaking up on a ranged and yeah tank will crush.

    Ranged needs to be always checking his six lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    Its much harder for tanks to close the gap compared to melee. No gap closers (Spineshatter Dive, Shoulder tackle, Overwhelm, etc), no enhanced movement speed (ninja without poison, Mnk's fists of wind) and no weapon throw to cancel opponents sprint and possibly heavy them. Hell Ninja even gets bind. If a tank gets close to a ranged they could destroy them but its still easier said than done without these tools.
    That's why I love playing DRK!

    Plunge>Low Blow and Tar Pit to be sticky as hell. Throw in Carnal Chill if you think the DPS can kill you for even more reduce DMG and Full Swing for an easier time killing them :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova_Rox View Post
    That's why I love playing DRK!

    Plunge>Low Blow and Tar Pit to be sticky as hell. Throw in Carnal Chill if you think the DPS can kill you for even more reduce DMG and Full Swing for an easier time killing them :3
    Oh yeah I did forget about plunge on dark knight. The only tank to have a gap closer.
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    And arguably the most useless tank in PvP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    And arguably the most useless tank in PvP!
    DRK?

    Donno. They all have their uses...unless you just can't figure out how to be useful lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    And arguably the most useless tank in PvP!
    Every class has its use, it's just up to the player to utilise them efficiently... Paladins going for kills is so .....
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    Ter'vin Valash
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    And arguably the most useless tank in PvP!
    Exactly. They're arguably useless. And I'll argue that they're not useless.
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    I had a lot of trouble with Dark Knight for the few games I played. I felt awfully squishy and with very little to offer to defend myself. I don't think it looked like I was even hitting particularly well either so I had a hard time finding it's use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knahli View Post
    I had a lot of trouble with Dark Knight for the few games I played. I felt awfully squishy and with very little to offer to defend myself. I don't think it looked like I was even hitting particularly well either so I had a hard time finding it's use.
    The most basic use of DRK with no tactical knowledge or skill is using Living Dead to node delay, being a defender and spamming skills such as Abyssal Drain to stay alive and delay the opponent from taking your node .

    Once you know your rotations and have experience, you can expand to deal damage in fights but if you want to do damage, you might as well pick a DPS in my opinion.

    They offer flying stuns and other nifty tricks but I feel jobs such as Paladin stun better and Warriors do more damage overall, their niche is living dead and disturbance AOE skills.
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