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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    You've got to remember too that WoW has YEARS of content and upgrades and changes under its belt, and FFXIV as we know it now has only been out for a couple years. I would say that I wish the developers at FFXIV would break out of their content mold and do something awesome and unexpected, but we got diadem from that and everyone hated it. So I don't know what to tell them!
    Diadem was busted by the meta mostly. Given the chance, players in endgame would seek out the easiest way to the important loot and eschew all others. Now that the gear won't be there and it will lokely not get updated until 3.3, and is mainly going to be for spiritbonding and materia diadem has an uncertain future for battle classes. Again, players seek out the easiest way to loot. If you bar that way with enough things, people will not do them and begrudgungly shuffle back into the df, forgetting your content.

    Then its back to the same old tired grind, which leaves them disinterested, particularly those that cannot, or don't want to, raid, as everything gets brushed aside for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Diadem was busted by the meta mostly. Given the chance, players in endgame would seek out the easiest way to the important loot and eschew all others. Now that the gear won't be there and it will lokely not get updated until 3.3, and is mainly going to be for spiritbonding and materia diadem has an uncertain future for battle classes. Again, players seek out the easiest way to loot. If you bar that way with enough things, people will not do them and begrudgungly shuffle back into the df, forgetting your content.

    Then its back to the same old tired grind, which leaves them disinterested, particularly those that cannot, or don't want to, raid, as everything gets brushed aside for it.
    In that regard I think the idea of a more structured Diadem has potential, kind of like a more open ended dungeon. We will have to see how the changes they implement end up working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Diadem was busted by the meta mostly. Given the chance, players in endgame would seek out the easiest way to the important loot and eschew all others. Now that the gear won't be there and it will lokely not get updated until 3.3, and is mainly going to be for spiritbonding and materia diadem has an uncertain future for battle classes. Again, players seek out the easiest way to loot.
    This is true, and it pisses me off no end. The players at end game who are easily the most vociferous critics of Diadem, are the very players that descended like locusts feeding on fresh shoots in a field. Only now that they've completed their feeding frenzy and screamed bloody murder about it for weeks, it's going to be changed which means that players who didn't exploit the crap out of it are now to be screwed over because the end-game locusts got their way...again.

    Which is more or less similar to what happened with Hunts in 2.x.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    This is true, and it pisses me off no end. The players at end game who are easily the most vociferous critics of Diadem, are the very players that descended like locusts feeding on fresh shoots in a field. Only now that they've completed their feeding frenzy and screamed bloody murder about it for weeks, it's going to be changed which means that players who didn't exploit the crap out of it are now to be screwed over because the end-game locusts got their way...again.
    Completely agree with you 100%. The naysayers have nobody else but to blame if they don't like Diadem. People like myself who aren't locusts remembered this trailer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkRTO7co_Yc

    and used that as a guide on how to enjoy Diadem. I have so much fun relaxing with my FC and friends while we fish, mine, chat, kill a few monsters, and enjoy the beautiful scenery. It's not Yoshi's fault that people are playing it wrong and it is unfortunate that he is going to have to waste his time making changes to it because of screaming locusts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pushin_tin View Post
    Completely agree with you 100%. The naysayers have nobody else but to blame if they don't like Diadem. People like myself who aren't locusts remembered this trailer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkRTO7co_Yc

    and used that as a guide on how to enjoy Diadem. I have so much fun relaxing with my FC and friends while we fish, mine, chat, kill a few monsters, and enjoy the beautiful scenery. It's not Yoshi's fault that people are playing it wrong and it is unfortunate that he is going to have to waste his time making changes to it because of screaming locusts.

    This post right here... (not to mention all the other's he's posted) just shows me he's probably just a troll. And yet we're all biting at it.. ugh.
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