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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    It's jetlag from the vacation.
    He was on vacation recently? Well its around Christmas so it makes sense. He skipped the week off the rest of the team had after they launched 3.0.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lorielle View Post
    Gonna have to stop you right here. The reason why people were pissed about ME3 ending was because everything that was done up to the very end of the trilogy made no difference. Your choices. Everything Shephard stood for. It mattered not. The ending was "Pick a Color". Done. There's nothing unique about that at all. Even if they made it "Unique" that wouldn't matter to a fanbase as long as their choices actually mattered. Here it did not. That was the backlash. No one likes "Shut up and Color" logic. Which by the way, we're doing for XIV.
    Personally I didn't like any of the endings. The end of the Mass Effect trilogy felt like a huge letdown to me. Totally put me off Bioware.

    Not sure how FF14 is 'pick a color' though. FF14 never sold itself on having choice in its story or having much variation in the narrative. In many ways its both a totally different game and a different narrative style. Games and stories both don't have to have multiple paths based on choice to be good.

    Core issues FF14 seems to have is primarily content ones with some people chaffing for more variety in the Job system. It would probably be less of an issue if Alex Savage and Diadem didn't flop and if 3.1 hadn't come so late. All are perfectly valid concerns. However I think its worth pointing out there is ample quantities of critical criticism of the game at the moment. Positive feedback on what they are doing right however tends to be in short supply and frankly is as important.

    There are scores of threads telling SE what they are doing wrong. There are many suggestions by people, sometimes conflicting suggestions, on how people think SE should fix any particular issue. There are rather few threads actually commenting on what players are happy with and like in the game. There must be something otherwise why would you be playing at all?

    For a change, tell SE what they have done right.
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    Last edited by Belhi; 12-30-2015 at 05:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    He was on vacation recently? .........

    For a change, tell SE what they have done right.
    / tosses you some much needed lip balm

    kk resume what you were doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindylou View Post
    / tosses you some much needed lip balm

    kk resume what you were doing
    Yeah just dismiss my opinion by throwing implied insults at me rather than arguing logically against my comments. While your at it call me a 'White Knight' as a way to try and ignore my arguments rather than actually putting forward counter arguments and opinions.

    I think there is plenty wrong with the game which I admit readily. There is much I want to see change or grow. However I am enjoying myself and I am not arguing that others criticism are unfounded. All player opinions are valid.

    I'm merely pointing out that in a thread created for positive feedback, simply filling it with piles of negative feedback and complaining is not only completely unconstructive but undermining of a feedback process that requires both positive (what they are doing right) AND negative (what they are doing wrong) feedback.

    SE gets heaps of the later from us and precious little of the former.

    If you have only negative feedback and can find nothing you enjoy about the game why the hell are you playing it at all, let alone posting on the game's forums?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    If you have only negative feedback and can find nothing you enjoy about the game why the hell are you playing it at all, let alone posting on the game's forums?
    Well, not sure about the rest, but personally? I've already unsubbed, I just foolishly was on a 3-month sub so I've got time left, which I will certainly not spend on FFXIV. What I, and probably many other long-time players are doing is the wait-and-see approach. We've unsubbed, but we're keeping an eye on the situation. If they keep heading down the path they're going, and just continue to do the exact same thing with a new coat of paint every patch....then no, I honestly can't see myself (or the others) coming back. Which is a shame, seeing as how I truly want to like the game, but I cannot abide by SE's current view of the game and their dirty tactics atm (3.15 comes to mind, thanks for the blatant lies SE, appreciated that)
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    And ME3 ' s ending just had a ton of bad writing. Any plot writing in the series was garbage after the first one.
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    Just going to throw this out there since most of this thread seems to be unduly negative, but I fully support the XIV team, and Yoshi P in particular, because they're working hard to provide a game that everyone can enjoy to some extent. They're also actively listening to suggestions from the fan base which is a big thing in my opinion, since many game companies tend to go with the "who cares what we make, it'll sell" approach and do little to patch content seen as broken by the community. While they may not implement every little suggestion made here on the forums, (and with good reason given that the community on here only represents a very small portion of the playerbase), they DO take suggestions. Anyone who's spent much time on this forum should know this, yet they act like our opinions go completely unheard. We got a buff to WM and GB fairly quickly after 3.0 came out, we got the "same role LB restrictions" pulled almost immediately due to backlash with them rethinking and reworking it, we get minor QoL updates all the time based on forum suggestions, and we got the Hauchefaunt minion and shield because of players requesting it, just to name a few things. I greatly applaud them for working hard to try and satisfy every facet of the community to some extent, while still trying to move forward with their own designs for the classes and content. Yes, there are still a great many things that could be improved, and there are plenty of things that players would like to see added, but the simple fact of the matter is that we can't get everything we want, and they're doing what they can with what limited resources they have. Some players here on the forums in particular seem to only look at what they feel needs improving, and not at what has already been improved.....

    To Yoshi P, and the team in general. Thank you. Sincerely. This is easily the best MMO I have ever played, and I intend to be a supporter for a long time to come.
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    Praise the Yoshi!!
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    To OP,
    FFXIV must be your first MMO if you really actually believe what you posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jas710 View Post
    To OP,
    FFXIV must be your first MMO if you really actually believe what you posted.
    In OP's defense, the only MMO I actually played that was comparable to FFXIV was pre-F2P DCUO. Every other MMO I have played has been mediocre.

    But as for this whole thread? Can't we just rely on constructive criticisms and accurate praise both? I mean, I'm not saying the OP is 100% right, but this game is pretty good. Sure, blind praise for things that are imperfect isn't great, but whining about how things aren't flawless isn't helping much either.
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    Last edited by HakuroDK; 12-30-2015 at 09:32 PM.

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    Come on, guys. It's obvious sarcasm.
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