Job Alignment Chart

[Lambdafish]

More towards chaotic because tank leader

Definately not, PLDs are most definately lawful good, everything about them is about law and order, and their oath.

incapable of being Chaotic neutral because of low bard DPS. Chaotic because they're not archers, chose to risk archery on his own whim for poetry. Good because 1. low dps output and 2. buff/respect for party

I agree, but not for the reasons you say. Bards are true neutral because all they want is to play music and be guided by the song, they have no agenda.

Other than this I would put WAR under Chaotic evil because they are pure wrath, not organised evil

[Alexz]

Definately not, PLDs are most definately lawful good, everything about them is about law and order, and their oath.



I agree, but not for the reasons you say. Bards are true neutral because all they want is to play music and be guided by the song, they have no agenda.

Other than this I would put WAR under Chaotic evil because they are pure wrath, not organised evil

1. Agreed. I actually should have switched the WHM and PLD positions.

2. I agree on some parts, but not with being neutral vs Chaotic. I believe they are chaotic because they are free spirited -- they are a new spawn off of archers, and chaotic would be free spirited like a bard. I do agree with the neutral vs good on some parts because they do deal damage and are not focused 100% on the team, but they also don't seem to deal enough damage for that. Instead, they seem to have more buffs than damage output + they're support dps

[HorseBoots]

Wouldn't Dark Knight be more along the Chaotic Good side of the Alignment Chart?

Lawful Evil is usually reserved for those who works within their boundaries to exploit and twist into whatever they find most convenient. See every corrupt noble trope in the history of the planet.

The origin of Dark Knights in lore stems from a rebel Ishgardian knight who saw past the social dogmas and laws of the city to outright murder a high ranking priest because he was exploiting kids or something. That origin almost completely fits Chaotic Good to a tee with the whole rebellious and lack of concern over rules and laws in order to bring justice (good) on those who are clearly guilty.

FFXIV Dark Knights are still stalwart protectors, they fight to protect those who are too weak to protect themselves. It's just that a Dark Knight would probably just outright murder the super corrupt evil noble while the Paladin would argue that they should take him into custody and give him a proper trial.

[Alexz]

Wouldn't Dark Knight be more along the Chaotic Good side of the Alignment Chart?

I really did not know much about the dark knight quests -- only up until about 50. I was really iffy about them because they have such a strong inner conflict, such as WAR, and also have kind of conflicting influences. After reading all of the comments, I'll have to agree with them being chaotic, but I believe they are more chaotic neutral-good rather than good.

[HorseBoots]

Snip.

They really don't explore that aspect of Dark Knight post level 50 as you pretty much "get over it." That being said, the nature of Dark Knight and what it is suppose to represent in the world of Eorzea follows the "Rebel with a cause" attitude of Chaotic Good to a tee. Going off my perspective completing the Dark Knight story and about 2 years~ worth of traditional table top gaming.

Chaotic Neutral is more reserved for the "Devil may care" kind of person. Chaotic Neutral values himself but not necessarily the values of others. Chaotic Neutral seeks what benefits himself best, without care for those around him. I mean, the website you linked describes it best. Chaotic Neutral is an individualist, which a group of rogue knights who work behind the shadows to protect the downtrodden and weak citizens of Ishgard from Ishgard itself certainly doesn't fit that description.

[karateorangutang]

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I always found it funny in the storylines that Dark Knight was CG and Rogue was LN leaning LG. Seems funny to me.

[Xanikk999]

Well this idea goes flying right out the window when in regards to the Warrior of light. No matter what job he/she takes up they are always ALWAYS Lawful dumb/ Stupid good.

[jomoru]

Well this idea goes flying right out the window when in regards to the Warrior of light. No matter what job he/she takes up they are always ALWAYS Lawful dumb/ Stupid good.

Alot of your actions are of questionable legality and they focus on whether or not the support of the city states in the face of beast tribes isn't just blatant imperialism, but hey we can't all have Bioware style morality of "would you like to" "Pet this puppy" or "Murder/rape these orphans" either way the story is far more complex than the simplicities of the allignment chart and has no interest in following it.

[Bead]

Well this idea goes flying right out the window when in regards to the Warrior of light. No matter what job he/she takes up they are always ALWAYS Lawful dumb/ Stupid good.

Well, the jobs themselves can't kind an alignment at all if you really want to take it there but to keep in spirit with the idea of the tread; the warrior of light is not the job itself.

Just because the warrior of light is a nice good guy black mage, doesn't mean that the essence of the class isn't pure destructive force. So much so the entirety of it's class quests is spent essentially fighting against it.

The summoner forcefully binds spirits to serve it, which I would count as evil as well, no matter what you do with them afterward.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Well, the jobs themselves can't kind an alignment at all if you really want to take it there but to keep in spirit with the idea of the tread; the warrior of light is not the job itself.

Just because the warrior of light is a nice good guy black mage, doesn't mean that the essence of the class isn't pure destructive force. So much so the entirety of it's class quests is spent essentially fighting against it.

The summoner forcefully binds spirits to serve it, which I would count as evil as well, no matter what you do with them afterward.

These points tie together more than I think you realize. The power of the void (A BLM's power source) is incredibly dangerous even to someone in absolute control of it. Anything less than absolute control is as much a danger to one's self as it is to others. Same with the Egis. When you first invoke one you call out the essence of a primal from within you, and it immediately tries to kill you, and should one ever lose control over it after beating it the 1st time then it could presumably finish what it's Source Primal started and kill you. Thus why we use our Archanimic formulas to program it like we do Carbuncles. They are less powerful but far easier and safer to control.

(We do not use any of the original forms of the Job powers, we just take on what the job crystals tell us to the skill sets we've already learned from our class training)