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    Quote Originally Posted by TatoRazzino View Post
    ET is a cooldown that works in a completely different way when compared to Divine Seal or Assize. Emergency Tactics transforms Succor into a heal comparable to Medica and Adloquium into a heal comparable to Cure II (when it doesn't crit, of course). If Succor, with its built in shield, worked like a regular heal, there would be no point in being able to use Emergency Tactics with it. That fact alone proves that Succor is different than Medica/Helios and it also proves that ET does not make Succor a stronger spell (it makes Succor a different spell); Divine Seal, on the other hand, enhances all healing spells and is a completely different cooldown. Using Divine Seal and then casting a Cure doesn't prevent you from using it with Regen. Using Emergency Tactics with Succor puts the skill in a cooldown and, for the next 30s, you can't use Succor to get the same effect as Medica or to transform your Adlo in something comparable to Cure II. That's how SCH works: a healing decision either reduces the amount of other actions you can take or prevents you from doing any other actions for a set duration. WHM doesn't have this kind of restrictions, and this is one of the reasons why it's stronger in healing. A job having weaknesses doesn't mean it's bad; weaknesses have to be designed, they're not flaws. And again: ET merely gives the SCH something the other two healers have all the time, so it's not empowering at all. It's a gap filler. Deny that all you want, it's not going to change anything.

    Also, saying that Embrace has 300 potency but scales less it's equivalent to saying it has a real potency of 200. Semantics won't change that and clinging to the tooltip is not going to make that skill stronger. Embrace is comparable to a Regen nowadays, unless you burn a cooldowm to Rouse your fairy for a short duration. I don't know why SCHs are trying to cover that up; it's not needed.
    You really dont seem to understand the nuances of scholar in the slightest. Emergency + Adlo is not the new SCH cure II. Physick + embrace has always been and always will be the "equivalent" of cure II and benefic II. Its a sad state of events when you seem to completely ignore how the fairy is used by a SCH. Also, as you seem to think only manage your fairy through macros (as stated in a previous post), i would have imagined you were going to actually engage with the reality of how a SCH heals (its not through macroing fairy heal + sch heals in one, as this is one of the worst thing a raid SCH can do), but should have lead way to you actually understanding that SCH usually isnt healing with physick or adlo but with physick + embrace, adlo + embrace, succor + whispering dawn. So in reality, where every one elses arguments are based, you now have to consider Emergency + Adlo + Embrace and tell me how this, as you are quite badly arguing all the time, is the equivalent of cure II or Benefic II.

    You also completely ignore the entire skillset of the SCH constantly and consistently, showing a very low understanding of this class. AOE healing has more choices on SCH than you portray, with Indomnibility, pre-cast succor, deployed adlo, emergency succor, whispering dawn being available. There is no situation in game that would require all of these. There is no situation in game that requires more than Meadica II>medica>medica or A.Helios>Helios>Helios to deal with for aoe damage. A SCH can match that healing output for aoe damage, and can infact prevent a fair portion of the damage occuring in the first place. Your arguments are not only disingenuous, but are highly biased, do not reflect reality and do not stand up to scrutiny.

    You want to single out Emergency Tactics for some really bizarre reason, one that cant be explained other than "i dont want to consider it" then go on to complain that other point out if you are going to completely ignore the effects that in healers cooldown has on the healing capabilities, then the same can be applied to others. Your "explaination" of why a short CD can be ignored whilst the longer CD other healers cant be ignored seems to be "just because i said so". You want to take a central part of SCH healing kit out of the equation, then do it uniformly across all the healers. You take Emergency Tactics out of the equation, then bye bye collective Unconscious and assize. However, unlike you, i acknowledge these exist and dont see a reason to pretend they dont.

    The fact that you can not fathom how a SCH functions with the fairy and Emergency Tactics is amusing.

    EDIT: emergency tactics does not prevent SCH using spells like you claim, also WHM is prevented from doing what it wants all the time by something very important: mana.
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