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    Weren't BRD's in FF11 upset over not being able to do any dmg? So why are they upset in FF14 about being able to shoot a bow? Impossible to statisfy much... Also this is a perfect path for ARC cuase RNG would be totally redundant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ottovonawesome View Post
    Weren't BRD's in FF11 upset over not being able to do any dmg? So why are they upset in FF14 about being able to shoot a bow? Impossible to statisfy much... Also this is a perfect path for ARC cuase RNG would be totally redundant.
    I agree with this. What could a Ranger bring to the table that an Archer couldn't? Possibly a pet, but wouldn't that be more like a Beastmaster anyways? I think a bow-wielding Bard sounds like an interesting twist for the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
    I agree with this. What could a Ranger bring to the table that an Archer couldn't? Possibly a pet, but wouldn't that be more like a Beastmaster anyways? I think a bow-wielding Bard sounds like an interesting twist for the job.
    And we've arrived, full-circle, to my claim on page one that Ranger, being not "ranged attack" but "ranges (the verb) a territory," chances are it'll be more like a BST. Way to bring that logic home, you two ^u^ -- I am still pretty surprised there's been no official activity prodded by all the barcher talk.

    I may be excited to try a class that doesn't even exist, afterall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
    I think a bow-wielding Bard sounds like an interesting twist for the job.
    But it isn't a bard, it's an archer.


    What they should have done is create jobs as a layer ABOVE classes, allowing any job to use any weapon. This would allows players to switch between multiple weapons (classes) during battle. If they added bard as a class, you could switch between both bow (archer) and harp (bard) during battle, without the need for a crazy harpbow hybrid to make it possible.

    Seems like an oversight or step in the wrong direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ottovonawesome View Post
    Weren't BRD's in FF11 upset over not being able to do any dmg? So why are they upset in FF14 about being able to shoot a bow? Impossible to statisfy much... Also this is a perfect path for ARC cuase RNG would be totally redundant.
    Adding bard as a job for archer is a convolution of systems and definitions.

    By definition, bard should be a class that uses musical instruments. In other words, it shouldn't be a job tacked onto archer. After all, in FFXIV, each class relates to a discipline of weaponry. So if a bard can shoot a bow, then he is an archer, and therefore he is not a bard.

    The harp-bow just goes to show how an archer cannot be a bard. They had to invent a whole new "class" of weaponry just to make it happen, and that's because bard should have been a class unto itself.

    The remedy for this whole debacle of course would be for SE to just not lock jobs to specific classes, and then you could negate the whole issue of what job becomes what class, since the problem simply wouldn't exist.

    Bard could then be freed up to be implemented in the future as a separate class with an appropriate non-hybrid bow-instrument tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    I can tell you that it is in fact a bow that transforms.
    Where's Mog? MOG! .... MOOOOOOOG. You never answered my question:

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose (Paraphrased)
    If speculation that turns out to be wrong makes people look like idiots, does the pendulum swing back the other way if my speculation is right and make me look like a prophetic genius? Or can we just agree that speculation is a good way to welcome fresh content, form our opinions, and wait out official word?
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    I, for one, welcome our new Bowharp overlords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ottovonawesome View Post
    Weren't BRD's in FF11 upset over not being able to do any dmg? So why are they upset in FF14 about being able to shoot a bow? Impossible to statisfy much... Also this is a perfect path for ARC cuase RNG would be totally redundant.
    The most in-demand class in the game is being made into the most in-demand job in the game... and they're crying about it.

    I'll never understand Final Fantasy players. -_-;
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