Chocobos and Airships (09/22/2011)

[Gennosuke]

The FFXIV playerbase has a reputation for wanting everything without effort. It's the reason everything is dumbed down more and more with every patch. It's no surprise that people expected this content to be handed to them too. The only way to make this playerbase happy is to give everyone maxed out characters when they start the game and to have all the best loot on tap from NPCs for 1 gil each. These kind of players are normally a minority in MMOs, but because 95% of people quit FFXIV this lot currently form the majority. Players who want challenge have gone elsewhere.

Completely agree.. very true unfortunately. It's becoming ridiculous. Not a single FF in the past had all this stuff handed this easy. It's just wrong in every FF sense. I'm getting more pissed with every patch.

I mean look at the trend, First we have Anima where you teleport anywhere anytime, no quest needed, nothing, just hit a button *poof* your at your destination. People justified this in the past due to no other transportation methods available. These very people today are still against removing or restricting anima, because it's a mentality and an attitude of give me everything right now.
Now.. we get Chocobos, no real quest for it, to add insult to injury, by another click of a button, what do you know, out of nowhere, you're riding the damn thing! Why can't we see it come from somewhere? Did it really come down to this? players so lazy they cant be stuffed even waiting few seconds for the chocobo to come and have them ride it manually?
But..we're not done yet..

* No recast time is imposed upon the chocobo whistle.

So.. whistle anytime, anywhere pretty much, and there's your chocobo. No restriction, no penality, no recast time. Now, someone please tell me, why on earth would anyone bother running anymore? Seriously? I see absolutely no valid reason to do so. This has nullified running as a feature coz no one from this community can be bothered running and now anyone would be stupid to run given the personal chocobo.
Not to mention, rental chocobos are just as redundant as a result.. but granted, it will only serve new players to come, though again had there been some stricter requirements not just for gaining personal chocobos but using them too, rentals would have been utilized more efficiently.
And Ofcourse.. last but not least, Airships, again no quest and similarly, insta Airship travel as well, click button and there you are in your destination.

It's just becoming a trend in this game, and it sucks in all honesty. SE needs to step it up and keep this an rpg. More effort, more story, more quests.

Enough handing sh!t on a golden platter.. It's just killing any sense of fun in this damn game.

[DNO]

Completely agree.. very true unfortunately. It's becoming ridiculous. Not a single FF in the past had all this stuff handed this easy. It's just wrong in every FF sense. I'm getting more pissed with every patch.

I mean look at the trend, First we have Anima where you teleport anywhere anytime, no quest needed, nothing, just hit a button *poof* your at your destination. People justified this in the past due to no other transportation methods available. These very people today are still against removing or restricting anima, because it's a mentality and an attitude of give me everything right now.
Now.. we get Chocobos, no real quest for it, to add insult to injury, by another click of a button, what do you know, out of nowhere, you're riding the damn thing! Why can't we see it come from somewhere? Did it really come down to this? players so lazy they cant be stuffed even waiting few seconds for the chocobo to come and have them ride it manually?
But..we're not done yet..

* No recast time is imposed upon the chocobo whistle.

So.. whistle anytime, anywhere pretty much, and there's your chocobo. No restriction, no penality, no recast time. Now, someone please tell me, why on earth would anyone bother running anymore? Seriously? I see absolutely no valid reason to do so. This has nullified running as a feature coz no one from this community can be bothered running and now anyone would be stupid to run given the personal chocobo.
Not to mention, rental chocobos are just as redundant as a result.. but granted, it will only serve new players to come, though again had there been some stricter requirements not just for gaining personal chocobos but using them too, rentals would have been utilized more efficiently.
And Ofcourse.. last but not least, Airships, again no quest and similarly, insta Airship travel as well, click button and there you are in your destination.

It's just becoming a trend in this game, and it sucks in all honesty. SE needs to step it up and keep this an rpg. More effort, more story, more quests.

Enough handing sh!t on a golden platter.. It's just killing any sense of fun in this damn game.

Your crazy lol. Calling a bird is killing your fun? lol.

man i am so glad SE does not listen to most of you.

[Gennosuke]

Your crazy lol. Calling a bird is killing your fun? lol.

man i am so glad SE does not listen to most of you.

It's not about calling the bird, but out of nowhere just appearing right under your bum? I mean c'mon man.. convenience is one thing, spoon feeding is another.

[DNO]

It's not about calling the bird, but out of nowhere just appearing right under your bum? I mean c'mon man.. convenience is one thing, spoon feeding is another.

So then ff11 spoon feed everyone? of course you can not disagree with this. because if you do it would make your arguement moot...

[Gennosuke]

So then ff11 spoon feed everyone? of course you can not disagree with this.

Actually i quit FFXI a while back, back when it was rentals. so no comment there. But i'm commenting based on the trend i see in the progress of this game, and while i appreciate convenience, i don't appreciate spoon feeding.

[DNO]

Actually i quit FFXI a while back, back when it was rentals. so no comment there. But i'm commenting based on the trend i see in the progress of this game, and while i appreciate convenience, i don't appreciate spoon feeding.

wow are you ok? your head is spinning hard.

way to not answer the question lol. anyway im done no use in debating if your gonna spin everything.

[Gennosuke]

wow are you ok? your head is spinning hard.

way to not answer the question lol. anyway im done no use in debating if your gonna spin everything.

Err.. are you ok? I did answer your question.
how did i not answer your question? You asked if FFXI is spoon feeding and i believe you were referring to the chocobo riding example. If you care to look back at my reply, i said i had quit back when it was rentals and not owning, where'd you'd blow into a whistle and by some miracle a frickn bird materializes under your @$$.
I'm spinning everything? You're the one nitpicking here on the chocobo example. I'm drawing attention to a much bigger picture.
I argue for keeping this game challenging, rewarding and fun to play. Being handed crap to me right away, whether it's teleports, Airships, Chocobos, mobs in a leve quest is not my idea of fun nor my understanding or expectation of an RPG, moreso MMORPG and certainly not FF.

[Cycloptichorn]

It's not about calling the bird, but out of nowhere just appearing right under your bum? I mean c'mon man.. convenience is one thing, spoon feeding is another.

How is that spoon feeding? They could have put in an animation of the birdie running around the corner and then you hopping on. It wouldn't change anything for you except the amount of time you have to wait, which I have little doubt would then be followed by further bitching at the amount of time it takes to get on the thing....

[Gennosuke]

How is that spoon feeding? They could have put in an animation of the birdie running around the corner and then you hopping on. It wouldn't change anything for you except the amount of time you have to wait, which I have little doubt would then be followed by further bitching at the amount of time it takes to get on the thing....

What's wrong with you seeing the thing running towards you and God forbid, you have to click on a button to ride it?

[Xenor]

Completely agree.. very true unfortunately. It's becoming ridiculous. Not a single FF in the past had all this stuff handed this easy. It's just wrong in every FF sense. I'm getting more pissed with every patch.

I mean look at the trend, First we have Anima where you teleport anywhere anytime, no quest needed, nothing, just hit a button *poof* your at your destination. People justified this in the past due to no other transportation methods available. These very people today are still against removing or restricting anima, because it's a mentality and an attitude of give me everything right now.
Now.. we get Chocobos, no real quest for it, to add insult to injury, by another click of a button, what do you know, out of nowhere, you're riding the damn thing! Why can't we see it come from somewhere? Did it really come down to this? players so lazy they cant be stuffed even waiting few seconds for the chocobo to come and have them ride it manually?
But..we're not done yet..

* No recast time is imposed upon the chocobo whistle.

So.. whistle anytime, anywhere pretty much, and there's your chocobo. No restriction, no penality, no recast time. Now, someone please tell me, why on earth would anyone bother running anymore? Seriously? I see absolutely no valid reason to do so. This has nullified running as a feature coz no one from this community can be bothered running and now anyone would be stupid to run given the personal chocobo.
Not to mention, rental chocobos are just as redundant as a result.. but granted, it will only serve new players to come, though again had there been some stricter requirements not just for gaining personal chocobos but using them too, rentals would have been utilized more efficiently.
And Ofcourse.. last but not least, Airships, again no quest and similarly, insta Airship travel as well, click button and there you are in your destination.

It's just becoming a trend in this game, and it sucks in all honesty. SE needs to step it up and keep this an rpg. More effort, more story, more quests.

Enough handing sh!t on a golden platter.. It's just killing any sense of fun in this damn game.

Best part is I almost never run anywhere to begin with due to anima being so easy. I've no use for a chocobo or an airship, I have alts to teleport me anywhere and everywhere. Even that's overkill considering I've probably got about 270 anima right now spread across my three characters.

Best use I can see for these chocobos is to initiative a leve, hop on your chocobo and then running it to your mobs. Sounds great for gathering leves where your nodes are far away. I can't see a use for them at all other than travel between aetheryte and camp. Even airships I'll still opt to teleport than run to the docks.