Company Seals for your own chocobo THATS IT?!

[Cycloptichorn]

yes! the poor new people... they will have to get like two other people to go take out the first low level dungeon which can be beat in like 10minutes and then they might have to do a few escort quests !!!

BS, that dungeon can't be beat in 10 minutes, by people who have never done it before...

Reika is absolutely right - the fact is that not everything is designed to be challenging for people who are already maxed-out. Imagine if they DID have a quest to get a chocobo; it would either be difficult enough to challenge those of us who have various r50 jobs, or we would have people bitching about how 'easy and useless' the quest was.

Some folks are just never happy...

[Azurymber]

BS, that dungeon can't be beat in 10 minutes, by people who have never done it before...

Reika is absolutely right - the fact is that not everything is designed to be challenging for people who are already maxed-out. Imagine if they DID have a quest to get a chocobo; it would either be difficult enough to challenge those of us who have various r50 jobs, or we would have people bitching about how 'easy and useless' the quest was.

Some folks are just never happy...

pretty sure i beat that dungeon for the first time on the hardest boss in under 30 min....
then a day later beat it on the easiest boss in like 10 min...
its especially easy when you can just look at a map that tells you what to do.

-NOTHING- in this game... AT ALL... is challenging atm. Except maybe Dzamael speed run and thats more about being able to gather a bunch of mages than it really is a challenge

[Cycloptichorn]

pretty sure i beat that dungeon for the first time on the hardest boss in under 30 min....
then a day later beat it on the easiest boss in like 10 min...
its especially easy when you can just look at a map that tells you what to do.

Hmm let's see:

- 30 minutes is three times as long as 10 minutes, so you've already backtracked quite a bit

- I just ran the dungeon 3 times with 4 r50's doing a little farming the other day. It takes almost 10 minutes to pop the first gate, and that's if you are going pretty quick and know exactly what you are doing. So I'm going to go ahead and call BS on your second claim.

- Sure, lots of things are easy if you cheat. There's no solution for that.

-NOTHING- in this game... AT ALL... is challenging atm. Except maybe Dzamael speed run and thats more about being able to gather a bunch of mages than it really is a challenge

Things are a lot more challenging when you don't 'look at a map' where someone else has told you how to do it.

I think there are plenty of challenging things in this game; just not things that people want to do. Or are you telling me that you are running around killing the various r80-99 mobs we see without a challenge?

[Azurymber]

Hmm let's see:

- 30 minutes is three times as long as 10 minutes, so you've already backtracked quite a bit

- I just ran the dungeon 3 times with 4 r50's doing a little farming the other day. It takes almost 10 minutes to pop the first gate, and that's if you are going pretty quick and know exactly what you are doing. So I'm going to go ahead and call BS on your second claim.

- Sure, lots of things are easy if you cheat. There's no solution for that.



Things are a lot more challenging when you don't 'look at a map' where someone else has told you how to do it.

I think there are plenty of challenging things in this game; just not things that people want to do. Or are you telling me that you are running around killing the various r80-99 mobs we see without a challenge?

i said 30 min for the HARDEST boss. thats like opening -every- gate. First or second boss i can pretty well solo in 15min and with a party can do it in 10 min easy. You dont really have to kill anything, just run to the lights (which are always in the same spots). Boss fight takes less than 30 seconds...

[syntaxlies]

pretty sure i beat that dungeon for the first time on the hardest boss in under 30 min....
then a day later beat it on the easiest boss in like 10 min...
its especially easy when you can just look at a map that tells you what to do.

-NOTHING- in this game... AT ALL... is challenging atm. Except maybe Dzamael speed run and thats more about being able to gather a bunch of mages than it really is a challenge

nothing challagng in this game at all are big words from someone who has not beaten batraal

[Azurymber]

nothing challagng in this game at all are big words from someone who has not beaten batraal

uhh cept I have beaten batraal ? like 30 times+?
Also seem to have a bunch of the first NM kills on my server as well as being one of the oldest 50 mrd on the server...

Levelling Mrd at start of game = kill things in 3 seconds for 15 hours a day. the challenging part was not falling asleep.

Levelling ARC during coblyn grind + leve grind = repetitive 1-shotting coblyns and repetitive leves

2 dungeons = easy.

quests = all overly easy (solo'd everyone pretty well)

missions = can do every one at rank 1

behests = solo'd pug to 30ish on them so easy

what in this game isnt easy?

[Felis]

pretty sure i beat that dungeon for the first time on the hardest boss in under 30 min....
then a day later beat it on the easiest boss in like 10 min...
its especially easy when you can just look at a map that tells you what to do.

Prove it with a video how you manage the dungeon under 30 min with a rank 25-30 class party
We're talking here about new players, not someone who have 1 or more r50 classes