Does SE want to us go back to WoW? Because this is how you lose MORE players to WoW.

[Kallera]

... If every person who came here to complain about the relic, also gave a well thought out idea on what they could have done differently (and I'm not just talking about "Make it easier! With less stuff!") the devs might come up with ideas they might not have thought of otherwise.

Just screaming that the devs have done a horrible job, and you hate them, and you want to unsub, doesn't help as much as people seem to think.

I definitely never, at any point tried to deny anyone's right to judge....

Except you just did, in the previous sentence.

Between zeta and anima People have now seen the presumed process of the relic, from its start to its end, and it is unsatisfying compared to other mmos and games. Don't presume no one has ever been compelled to run content over and over before. I certainly have, but it had better be worth more than "25% off the next monotonous task we design for this sort of thing".

This isn't all handwaved as some limitation of the genre or its players. We've seen better quests, and we have seen better rewards for said quests.