Does SE want to us go back to WoW? Because this is how you lose MORE players to WoW.

[Zophar]

To all who wish to encourage Square Enix to make changes to their MMO -- get together, formulate a general outline of your complaints, along with what you'd like to see as a resolution (note, not HOW to do it, but what it should look like), and SEND IT DIRECTLY VIA MAIL to the company. 100 or 1000 complaints on a forum, where you are anonymous is much less powerful than a concentrated letter campaign.

Thank you. That is exactly how I feel. I'm not one to bash constructive criticism. Aimless whining though. That's a different story. If every person who came here to complain about the relic, also gave a well thought out idea on what they could have done differently (and I'm not just talking about "Make it easier! With less stuff!") the devs might come up with ideas they might not have thought of otherwise. Just screaming that the devs have done a horrible job, and you hate them, and you want to unsub, doesn't help as much as people seem to think.

"Your subscriptions only allows you access to the game, you're not allowed to judge its quality". Well ok then.

I definitely never, at any point tried to deny anyone's right to judge. That is your right. You may feel free. All I've done is debate, what I believe to be bad arguments. That is what we, as adults, do.