you guys went overboard with this new relic

[silentwindfr]

if 3.2 doesnt come with a new primal that drops 210 weapon... (thordan is dropping 205 atm ) , or the new tomes weapons , or hell 3.2 will add gobdip to alex normal as weekly quest....


then all the ppl that grinded the relic will be mad.

you realize that the esotheric gear will replace the law at the 3.2... meaning people will be able to get a i210 in less of 1 week and 2-3 week later the new tomes weapon.... that the model they have follow soo far. meaning all this quest insane... its ridiculous not because it recquire an amount of time stupid... but because in 2-3 month.... it will worth nothing. all this time invest into an item that will be useless for the 3.2...

the worst is people have asked while the relic 2.X to avoid grind, to offer us a true feeling of accomplishement throught the quest... the first part of the relic the one where we did get the i80 was feeling like this... it was recquiring to complete fight that was giving us a feeling to earn the right to have the relic...
but after that... we only did get a long and boring grind, why? because at 2.0 the raider did cry a river because the non raider was able to get a weapon equal to them without enter raid. that the truth behind this....

and it where we reach the pinnacle of the irony... recently Yoshida did give the number of person that really do care for high level raid... and it's a minority. and instead to work on true content that will satisfy most of the community we still get boring content while the raider receive a content for them.

for make simple all the endgame is for about 8-9% of the community! how is logical! people was expecting more from the relic and we did get more... more grind. if they want to give us this sort of long and boring grind for the relic... this weapon need to be the best weapon we can get in the game and not only for 2-3 month.

[Kaurie]

Before 3.15: Wahhhhhhhhhhh. XIV is boring and no content. I have no reason to log in. Fix it pls SE.


After 3.15: Wahhhhhhhhhhh. Relics take too long, I dont want to log in everyday. Fix it pls SE.

Do it, or dont . Easy. Your RL wont change if you have a relic in XIV or not, so im not sure what the fuss is about.

First I'd like to thank you for your mature and thoughtful addition to the discussion.

Those two points are irrelevant. There is no new content (I mean other than a glamour that we cannot see for awhile), and things are still (if not more) boring. [Correction: There is that Scholasticate new content]

I do appreciate that the new relic has focus, it's a clear goal that you know what you need to do and isn't subject to things like RNG/Time-gating or wasting your time waiting for fates to spawn. However, the sheer number of things you need is quite high imo.

This game encourages you to play multiple classes on one character, but then does everything in its power to prevent you from actually playing more than one job. Grinding one of these is ridiculous. 2+? No thanks.

See you all in Alex NM.

[KeluBehemoth]

I mean I probably will do it but I may unsub for a while as well.

Savage does not impress me at all having cleared coil pre echo. Gear is outdated way too fast and heck... If I just wait a couple months it will be 10x easier to obtain everything because they ALWAYS nerf it.

I would gladly take some grind if it were mixed with some skill but 90% of the content in this game is SOLELY grinding.

[Evtrai]

Im sorry you feel this way.

It is a relic item... the most powerful you will obtain. It is meant to be time consuming not everyone is meant to get it, because reasons. Last but not least this is an mmo. They take TIME to play. I am tired of this generation of gamers that want everything with minimal effort and time investment.

I don't think people expected it easy to get, it's just the predictability of how they addressed it. People hated doing these things in 2.0 because they were boring, and they literally carbon copied the exact same things into 3.15 and ignored what people actually enjoyed of 2.0 relic quest chain which was, hydra, Chimera and primals. No one liked Atmas, no one liked grinding old dungeons, no one likes grinding tomes doing the same dungeons, people dislikes Alexander and they went on with it as an excuse to hopefully liven up the dead areas, which they are at fault themselves because of how incredibly fast they abandon their own content.

I have played several Korean MMO's which are basically the epitome of grind, and even so, they are at least way better than this, at least their grinds were changing, unlike here.

[Lambdafish]

Before 3.15: Wahhhhhhhhhhh. XIV is boring and no fun content. I have no reason to log in. Fix it pls SE.

After 3.15: Wahhhhhhhhhhh. Relics is boring and adds nothing new to the players experience, I dont want to log in everyday. Fix it pls SE.

fixed that for ya

[Breezelyn]

Before 3.15: Wahhhhhhhhhhh. XIV is boring and no content. I have no reason to log in. Fix it pls SE.

After 3.15: Wahhhhhhhhhhh. Relics take too long, I dont want to log in everyday. Fix it pls SE.

Do it, or dont . Easy. Your RL wont change if you have a relic in XIV or not, so im not sure what the fuss is about.

Unless the said content you have to do over, and over, and over again, i'm sure you'll get bored to the point where you just drop it and say fuck it. Something that I will not like to do. Grinding the same things and over, like 800 Alex runs, will take a toll on you after a while. There's only so much one can do before they just drop it all together. Idk who designed the last step in SE, but they need to re-evaluate the requirements.

[KaitlanKela]

To get the relic, you have to do boring content an absurd number of times.

Raid Savage. Skill-locked cutting edge interesting and challenging content. There you go. Unless you want that to be nerfed too...

All this for a weapon that will be outclassed in the shortest amount of time, until it is updated, to only match the current ilvl of content which will require ANOTHER absurd grind of boring content before getting outclassed in the shortest amount of time.

You don't know any of that.

[Accolade]

fixed that for ya

Thanks!

[Aryalandi]

Lol i suppose i am just one of "those people" who views this grind and thinks back to the ffxi days where a single relic was a year+ commitment complete with a 100+ million gil requirement and countless hours of harsh grinding and thinks.. people find ffxiv's grind bothersome...? -grabbyhands- bring the fates!

Yes it is time consuming, there could be a nice quest chain to do instead with a story and such that would be amazing.. but it is also sadly unlikely because square /is/ going to make these a deliberate pain in the backside to get every time.

[Evtrai]

Raid Savage. Skill-locked cutting edge interesting and challenging content. There you go. Unless you want that to be nerfed too...


You don't know any of that.

Except, following the trend that every bit of what people has predicted has happened, I would seriously doubt it's going to be any different, since SE has failed each time so far to prove us wrong, which is the problem, the content has become so monotonous and unchanging that it's predictable, nothing is surprising, nothing is impressive, there's nothing changing.