you guys went overboard with this new relic

[Stanelis]

If you want it NOW NOW, then it does suck, yeah. But I think it was designed to suck if you were to grind it out over the course of a few weeks.

The main issue isn't that you have to grind. It is that you have to grind obsolete retarded stuff (fates, beastribe quest, 2.0 dungeons, normal alex, ...) a retarded amount of time for something wich will be obsolete in a few month (the ratio of reward versus effort is less than 0).

[Evtrai]

I mean to be honest I've come to see this games model ISNT going to change. I play it mostly for the story now after being let down patch after patch,

I'm going to complete the relic grind because I want the relic but I will not enjoy it for the most part. As I rarely enjoy grinding tomes.

This is part of the problem however, I'd say mission acomplished, you will still be doing this content and be giving them money, your wallet speaks more than your voice here, since basically every comment, complaint goes to deaf ears, since they never reply or address anything that isn't glamour, hairstyles and minion requests.

[Kallera]

IF the 3.2 patch notes indicate that there will be weapons better than this and this was just filler until 3.2 since 3.1 was generally a flop, then yeah, get pissed then. That's more than fair. But we simply don't know that's the case yet. In fact, wait until 3.2 if you want to potentially not waste your time/money. That's also a legit option. Compaining and wanting a nerf? Eh, I'm not seeing it.

Actually this is what is going to happen unless they were lying to crafters about improving battle gear. 3.2 is where the ilvl will be raised, and the 210 relic will be outclassed by at least tomes, and likely raid and craft gear.

I do agree that this would've been okay had we had this earlier, like 3.0, but this much grind of the same stuff we're had for 5 months, given how this treadmill is designed, is a step too far.

Also: How does one we say "Atma is a terrible thing and we don't want it anymore!" In Japanese?

[Warlyx]

IF the 3.2 patch notes indicate that there will be weapons better than this and this was just filler until 3.2 since 3.1 was generally a flop, then yeah, get pissed then. That's more than fair. But we simply don't know that's the case yet. In fact, wait until 3.2 if you want to potentially not waste your time/money. That's also a legit option. Compaining and wanting a nerf? Eh, I'm not seeing it.

if 3.2 doesnt come with a new primal that drops 210 weapon... (thordan is dropping 205 atm ) , or the new tomes weapons , or hell 3.2 will add gobdip to alex normal as weekly quest....


then all the ppl that grinded the relic will be mad.

[Shiki_Lockhart]

I hope with this Yoshi-P learned his lesson to not be nice with players by making a new relic instead sticking with previous relic for upgrades and keep them going for who really want to do them.

After reading what people were saying, it would lead to a new relic every new expansion to please the guys that didn't bother to do them and saw that became BIS weapons later. This will repeat once again and I hope they don't nerf or reset relic again because of those people.

If you want to do the relic then do, if you don't want then don't come crying to forums that is a hassle and a lot to do. And to be honest, you guys are crying that there is nothing to do so SE gave you something to keep you busy but you refuse to do? Nice one, nice one lol

Plus this weapon is 210 not 200 or 205, inferior to savage. You should be happy for them in most of the cases, are BiS already and who knows if we will be able to play with stats again later.

[KaitlanKela]

The main issue isn't that you have to grind. It is that you have to grind obsolete retarded stuff (fates, beastribe quest, 2.0 dungeons, normal alex, ...) a retarded amount of time for something wich will be obsolete in a few month (the ratio of reward versus effort is less than 0).

Did you read the second half of my post? It's only less than zero IF it becomes obsolete in a few months which we totally don't know. If it does, then yes. You are absolutely right. I, for one, don't think it will. I probably won't get to work on this until I know for sure, though.

[Riki_Namu]

Im sorry you feel this way.

It is a relic item... the most powerful you will obtain. It is meant to be time consuming not everyone is meant to get it, because reasons. Last but not least this is an mmo. They take TIME to play. I am tired of this generation of gamers that want everything with minimal effort and time investment.

[KaitlanKela]

if 3.2 doesnt come with a new primal that drops 210 weapon... (thordan is dropping 205 atm ) , or the new tomes weapons , or hell 3.2 will add gobdip to alex normal as weekly quest....


then all the ppl that grinded the relic will be mad.

Yes, unless there's another extension to the relic questline that scales the weapon as well. And there's no reason to suggest that there wouldn't be.

[Accolade]

Before 3.15: Wahhhhhhhhhhh. XIV is boring and no content. I have no reason to log in. Fix it pls SE.

After 3.15: Wahhhhhhhhhhh. Relics take too long, I dont want to log in everyday. Fix it pls SE.

Do it, or dont . Easy. Your RL wont change if you have a relic in XIV or not, so im not sure what the fuss is about.

[Kallera]

Before 3.15: Wahhhhhhhhhhh. XIV is boring and no content. I have no reason to log in. Fix it pls SE.

After 3.15: Wahhhhhhhhhhh. Relics take too long, I dont want to log in everyday. Fix it pls SE.

Do it, or dont . Easy. Your RL wont change if you have a relic in XIV or not, so im not sure what the fuss is about.

To get the relic, you have to do boring content an absurd number of times. All this for a weapon that will be outclassed in the shortest amount of time, until it is updated, to only match the current ilvl of content which will require ANOTHER absurd grind of boring content before getting outclassed in the shortest amount of time.