A3S nerfs incoming

[Alex_Lenderson]

What killed savage was itself.

The fight is too overtunned for this style of game. It does not matter if people clear it or not... no fight should require the average endgame group to spend 600+ hrs of practice to clear it. The bragging rights of WE killed this hard fight is not why most endgame players do endgame. Savage caused such a toxic atmosphere not only did people stop doing the content it is driving people out of this game.

The content is shortlived (less then 1 year of being top tier gear)... so the majority of raiders are not willing to spend that much time to get gear that is Glamour 2-3 months after they get it. Hell I consider myself a hardcore endgame player in every other mmo I played dedicating nearly 30-40 hours a week doing endgame progression content alone, and I even call savage a waste of time. Why should I waste that much time bashing my head against the wall day in and day out when in 2month the gear will be worthless vendor trash.

Normal coil was the maximum difficulty the game should of been, considering content has a 1/2yr life cycle. IT was challenging but people could clear it in a reasonable time considering the life cycle of the content. IT was a garbage design but a hell of alot more balanced then it is now. Savage should of remained title only.

Oh and alex normal does not replace normal coil for those that argue that. IT is a pathetic joke which a group of 8yr olds could clear without much difficulty.

If they made the gear last for 2 years should that matter? I have NEVER understood the MMO population. Did you have fun doing the challenge? If Yes - awesome glad you had fun. If No - then no matter what the reward is you wasted your limited free time on this earth doing something you disliked. I'm sorry.

[Velox]

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This is primarily the English player base of games in 2015 who only do challenging content for the material rewards rather than the satisfaction of doing it. This is because of the increase of a younger audience who places too much value in "stuff" rather than seeing "stuff" as a tool to GET you towards your goal. Raiding and hard content from MMOs 8+ years ago didn't emphasize rewards. You did it for bragging rights and cosmetics like a special mount. Gear was simply a means to an end.

The fact that people blatantly won't do challenging content without some sort of incentive other than the satisfaction of clearing it proves how the entitled generation has infected the modern MMO market.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

This is primarily the English player base of games in 2015 who only do challenging content for the material rewards rather than the satisfaction of doing it. This is because of the increase of a younger audience who places too much value in "stuff" rather than seeing "stuff" as a tool to GET you towards your goal. Raiding and hard content from MMOs 8+ years ago didn't emphasize rewards. You did it for bragging rights and cosmetics like a special mount. Gear was simply a means to an end.

The fact that people blatantly won't do challenging content without some sort of incentive other than the satisfaction of clearing it proves how the entitled generation has infected the modern MMO market.

You sound like those elderly who live in the past and say bs like "back in my day"

[kalasnikov]

No nerfs. So In your face bad people!

[Cherie]

It seems like all we are going to get in the future is more crystal tower/void ark type stuff and more grindy stuff like diadem. I think alexander and savage alexander will run it's course but I wouldn't be surprised if the next few floors of alex had it come to a abrupt end sadly.

The community in this game that forms a static and does the more serious raid was already rather small. If they make the rewards parallel to the content that is just easy grinding, even the people that would like a static for harder stuff aren't going to bother as much. Why wait for your friends to log on at a particular time when you can just go with strangers to grind stuff?

If you were playing zelda and you could go do a difficult water temple that would take you maybe a few weeks to figure out for a neato shield that looked cool or do some easy forest temple in a hour for the same shield in maybe a drab color... Which would you do?

[Gardes]

This is primarily the English player base of games in 2015 who only do challenging content for the material rewards rather than the satisfaction of doing it. This is because of the increase of a younger audience who places too much value in "stuff" rather than seeing "stuff" as a tool to GET you towards your goal. Raiding and hard content from MMOs 8+ years ago didn't emphasize rewards. You did it for bragging rights and cosmetics like a special mount. Gear was simply a means to an end.

The fact that people blatantly won't do challenging content without some sort of incentive other than the satisfaction of clearing it proves how the entitled generation has infected the modern MMO market.

Odd, I was under the impression that this is the first MMO to reward players for tackling hard content with pretty much the same reward that you get if you didn't tackle the hard content at all and replaced it with 'glamour', 'timed exclusivity' and 'sense of accomplishment.

Can you list me a series of MMOs that doesn't reward players with way better gear that what they have if they didn't tackle the game's hardest contents? To help me believe that the 'olden' days were truly as you say, I mean.

[Kuwagami]

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the old days were exactly the same content wise (reward the best players). What changed is the mentality of the playerbase, tackling content solely for the gear rather than the challenge itself.

Though AS3 totally overshot the difficulty

No nerfs. So In your face bad people!

Do not be so sure. The new stuff put in alexander normal mode looks like parts for the i210 hordian gear. Not technically a nerf. Just a "don't bother to go anymore".

Of course, that's still only a guess

[Miscreant]

Do not be so sure. The new stuff put in alexander normal mode looks like parts for the i210 hordian gear. Not technically a nerf. Just a "don't bother to go anymore".

Of course, that's still only a guess

-_- it's the 190 stuff in normal, they are just making it easier to obtain

[Kuwagami]

-_- it's the 190 stuff in normal, they are just making it easier to obtain

What would be the point of having different tokens for the same gear in the same dungeon ? Makes no sense

[Blood-Aki]

What would be the point of having different tokens for the same gear in the same dungeon ? Makes no sense

easier to obtain...as was said. instead of farming the same item multiple times you can just get 1!