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    Xatsh's Avatar
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    Xatsh Vei
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    What killed savage was itself.

    The fight is too overtunned for this style of game. It does not matter if people clear it or not... no fight should require the average endgame group to spend 600+ hrs of practice to clear it. The bragging rights of WE killed this hard fight is not why most endgame players do endgame. Savage caused such a toxic atmosphere not only did people stop doing the content it is driving people out of this game.

    The content is shortlived (less then 1 year of being top tier gear)... so the majority of raiders are not willing to spend that much time to get gear that is Glamour 2-3 months after they get it. Hell I consider myself a hardcore endgame player in every other mmo I played dedicating nearly 30-40 hours a week doing endgame progression content alone, and I even call savage a waste of time. Why should I waste that much time bashing my head against the wall day in and day out when in 2month the gear will be worthless vendor trash.

    Normal coil was the maximum difficulty the game should of been, considering content has a 1/2yr life cycle. IT was challenging but people could clear it in a reasonable time considering the life cycle of the content. IT was a garbage design but a hell of alot more balanced then it is now. Savage should of remained title only.

    Oh and alex normal does not replace normal coil for those that argue that. IT is a pathetic joke which a group of 8yr olds could clear without much difficulty.
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    Zosia Twinrova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    What killed savage was itself.

    The fight is too overtunned for this style of game. It does not matter if people clear it or not... no fight should require the average endgame group to spend 600+ hrs of practice to clear it. The bragging rights of WE killed this hard fight is not why most endgame players do endgame. Savage caused such a toxic atmosphere not only did people stop doing the content it is driving people out of this game.The content is shortlived (less then 1 year of being top tier gear)... so the majority of raiders are not willing to spend that much time to get gear that is Glamour 2-3 months after they get it. Hell I consider myself a hardcore endgame player in every other mmo I played dedicating nearly 30-40 hours a week doing endgame progression content alone, and I even call savage a waste of time. Why should I waste that much time bashing my head against the wall day in and day out when in 2month the gear will be worthless vendor trash.

    Normal coil was the maximum difficulty the game should of been, considering content has a 1/2yr life cycle. IT was challenging but people could clear it in a reasonable time considering the life cycle of the content. IT was a garbage design but a hell of alot more balanced then it is now. Savage should of remained title only.

    Oh and alex normal does not replace normal coil for those that argue that. IT is a pathetic joke which a group of 8yr olds could clear without much difficulty.
    Pretty much this, not to mention that you can still get the same gear appearance from just doing normal, so the only perk to having done savage glamour wise is the dye factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    What killed savage was itself.

    The fight is too overtunned for this style of game. It does not matter if people clear it or not... no fight should require the average endgame group to spend 600+ hrs of practice to clear it. The bragging rights of WE killed this hard fight is not why most endgame players do endgame. Savage caused such a toxic atmosphere not only did people stop doing the content it is driving people out of this game.

    The content is shortlived (less then 1 year of being top tier gear)... so the majority of raiders are not willing to spend that much time to get gear that is Glamour 2-3 months after they get it. Hell I consider myself a hardcore endgame player in every other mmo I played dedicating nearly 30-40 hours a week doing endgame progression content alone, and I even call savage a waste of time. Why should I waste that much time bashing my head against the wall day in and day out when in 2month the gear will be worthless vendor trash.

    Normal coil was the maximum difficulty the game should of been, considering content has a 1/2yr life cycle. IT was challenging but people could clear it in a reasonable time considering the life cycle of the content. IT was a garbage design but a hell of alot more balanced then it is now. Savage should of remained title only.

    Oh and alex normal does not replace normal coil for those that argue that. IT is a pathetic joke which a group of 8yr olds could clear without much difficulty.

    If they made the gear last for 2 years should that matter? I have NEVER understood the MMO population. Did you have fun doing the challenge? If Yes - awesome glad you had fun. If No - then no matter what the reward is you wasted your limited free time on this earth doing something you disliked. I'm sorry.
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