A3S nerfs incoming

[Gardes]

This is primarily the English player base of games in 2015 who only do challenging content for the material rewards rather than the satisfaction of doing it. This is because of the increase of a younger audience who places too much value in "stuff" rather than seeing "stuff" as a tool to GET you towards your goal. Raiding and hard content from MMOs 8+ years ago didn't emphasize rewards. You did it for bragging rights and cosmetics like a special mount. Gear was simply a means to an end.

The fact that people blatantly won't do challenging content without some sort of incentive other than the satisfaction of clearing it proves how the entitled generation has infected the modern MMO market.

Odd, I was under the impression that this is the first MMO to reward players for tackling hard content with pretty much the same reward that you get if you didn't tackle the hard content at all and replaced it with 'glamour', 'timed exclusivity' and 'sense of accomplishment.

Can you list me a series of MMOs that doesn't reward players with way better gear that what they have if they didn't tackle the game's hardest contents? To help me believe that the 'olden' days were truly as you say, I mean.

[Kuwagami]

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the old days were exactly the same content wise (reward the best players). What changed is the mentality of the playerbase, tackling content solely for the gear rather than the challenge itself.

Though AS3 totally overshot the difficulty

No nerfs. So In your face bad people!

Do not be so sure. The new stuff put in alexander normal mode looks like parts for the i210 hordian gear. Not technically a nerf. Just a "don't bother to go anymore".

Of course, that's still only a guess

[Miscreant]

Do not be so sure. The new stuff put in alexander normal mode looks like parts for the i210 hordian gear. Not technically a nerf. Just a "don't bother to go anymore".

Of course, that's still only a guess

-_- it's the 190 stuff in normal, they are just making it easier to obtain

[Kuwagami]

-_- it's the 190 stuff in normal, they are just making it easier to obtain

What would be the point of having different tokens for the same gear in the same dungeon ? Makes no sense

[Destomius]

the old days were exactly the same content wise (reward the best players). What changed is the mentality of the playerbase, tackling content solely for the gear rather than the challenge itself.

Though AS3 totally overshot the difficulty



Do not be so sure. The new stuff put in alexander normal mode looks like parts for the i210 hordian gear. Not technically a nerf. Just a "don't bother to go anymore".

Of course, that's still only a guess

Nope. They're for the relic. It'd make no sense that they'd be for i210 Gordian gear considering there's no cranks, springs, or chains.

You need 10x of each of those precision pieces to get a token for the last stage of the relic. They're not exchange items for gear.

See: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._weapon_guide/

Which is good news. With Diadem gear being BIS for everything but weapon, there's literally no reason to nerf A3S.

[Kuwagami]

Nope. They're for the relic. It'd make no sense that they'd be for i210 Gordian gear considering there's no cranks, springs, or chains.

You need 10x of each of those precision pieces to get a token for the last stage of the relic. They're not exchange items for gear.

See: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._weapon_guide/

Which is good news. With Diadem gear being BIS for everything but weapon, there's literally no reason to nerf A3S.

As I said in the message you quoted, that was only a guess (early discussions with friends upon discovering the new items)

AS3 already bears no purpose other than banging your head upon a brick wall. Nerfing it wouldn't do anything. People wouldn't go more at it than they already do. And they don't

All in all though, considering the pile of trash farm that the new relic is, I would have loved for it to be the new way to get gordian though. That would have made an even better reason to farm alexander (which will be the fastest way to proceed anyway)

[kalasnikov]

No nerfs. So In your face bad people!

[Cherie]

It seems like all we are going to get in the future is more crystal tower/void ark type stuff and more grindy stuff like diadem. I think alexander and savage alexander will run it's course but I wouldn't be surprised if the next few floors of alex had it come to a abrupt end sadly.

The community in this game that forms a static and does the more serious raid was already rather small. If they make the rewards parallel to the content that is just easy grinding, even the people that would like a static for harder stuff aren't going to bother as much. Why wait for your friends to log on at a particular time when you can just go with strangers to grind stuff?

If you were playing zelda and you could go do a difficult water temple that would take you maybe a few weeks to figure out for a neato shield that looked cool or do some easy forest temple in a hour for the same shield in maybe a drab color... Which would you do?

[Zojha]

I'm more inclined to believe those items are for the relic weapon.

IIRC, we only get precise Bolt, Lense, Spring and Shaft, no Pedal nor Chain, so one item per Alexander part.