Patch 3.15 Notes Discussion

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

Hahahahahaha Atma all over again:



Kill me now please ;w;

Nope nope nope nope nope! I refuse to do this if it's anything like the Atmas.

[Blood-Aki]

Nope nope nope nope nope! I refuse to do this if it's anything like the Atmas.

What would you expect then? just hand this one item to an npc and BAM, relic! these are relics after all, they WILL come with annoying grinds, it's just how this works..

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

What would you expect then? just hand this one item to an npc and BAM, relic! these are relics after all, they WILL come with annoying grinds, it's just how this works..

They don't HAVE to come with annoying grinds. A Relic Reborn was an honest-to-goodness actual quest.

[Greedalox]

They don't HAVE to come with annoying grinds. A Relic Reborn was an honest-to-goodness actual quest.

Yes they do need to come with annoying grinds. Welcome to MMO's with rewards to match your effort. Not everything can be ezpz 123.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Yes they do need to come with annoying grinds. Welcome to MMO's with rewards to match your effort. Not everything can be ezpz 123.

Actually, this statement is pretty backward considering everything after the initial quest - that included successfully completing the 5 toughest, sub-raid challenges the game had to offer at the time - was so much easier and didn't require skill nearly as much from players. Just time and repetition.

[Blood-Aki]

They don't HAVE to come with annoying grinds. A Relic Reborn was an honest-to-goodness actual quest.

So you want possibly the most powerful weapon in the game to be as easy as possible.? Are you serious, im not a grind fan by any meansd but even i understand effort is needed for these types of weapons.

and based on the amount of crying that was Titan Hard mode back then, That wasn't really easy either.

[PArcher]

So you want possibly the most powerful weapon in the game to be as easy as possible.? Are you serious, im not a grind fan by any meansd but even i understand effort is needed for these types of weapons.

and based on the amount of crying that was Titan Hard mode back then, That wasn't really easy either.

Technically, it wasn't the best weapon either; you had to spend 3 weeks of Myth tomes to get the i90 (which everyone did anyway...), and that was only "best" until they buffed Allagan to i95 in 2.1 (and added Primal i90s, which some were better than the Relics. Titan EX and Ifrit EX said hi and scared too many people away, even though all they wanted was a hug )

[Felis]

They don't HAVE to come with annoying grinds. A Relic Reborn was an honest-to-goodness actual quest.

The grind for the first relic was nerfed down. Look at 1.0 relic guides to see the not nerfed grind of the first relic.

[Morningstar1337]

The grind in ARR relic was nerfed down. Look at 1.0 relic guides to see the not nerfed grind of the first relic.

Yeah, but I have the feeling the grind would be even more tedious than even the unerfed grind (take a look at what became of the once casual activity of Crafting and find out why)

crazy prediction time

• Beastmen currencies are needed, you nee 10 stacks of 99 each for their step
• Radiant crystal drop rates are even lower then unerfed atma. We're talking even lower than Coffin Lid/Wind-Up Succubus
• Need Thordian EX for Astral Node and Alexander: Gordeas (all 4) for the Umbral nodes, maybe Ravana and Brismark EX as well
• You need all the new crafts to get them and each of mats will take 2000 red scripts...each
• Oh and you have to Run Coil, CT, and Mhach raids...synched
• the reward? not an i200 weapon, not an i210 weapon, but a i250 weapon! (By the time anyone even gets their relic Patch 3.2 will be out and with it Alexander part two which will also have i250 gear, ilevel subject to increase depending on if too many people fail to get it before the 3rd raid tier hits)

Okay now that I posted the worse case scenario, at least take solace in the fact that SE isn't THAT crazy. BTW are we gonna expect full patch notes soon or is this it?

[Morningstar1337]

The Beattribe tokens are also probably related to the Relic.

Too bad we have only 12 allowances but 5 Tribes to do quests for...

6 actually and going by precedent this means that either the Oaknots will be needed for the relic as well or the new currencies will be for crafting mats

or both if these new recipies are related to the relic (unlikely considering that CUL got one and GSM doesn't seem to be a weapon)