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    Player
    Colorful's Avatar
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Kujata
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    I *still* see people immediately leave Steps of Faith. Are we playing the same game?
    Could be that you're on an NA datacentre? I don't know what kind of person who leave it at this point though, you barely have to try to beat it.
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    Daenaerys Targaryen
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Could be that you're on an NA datacentre? I don't know what kind of person who leave it at this point though, you barely have to try to beat it.
    Id say so, I was on Tonberry (god I miss JP servers so much nicer) and everyone stayed every time. Barely have to do anything to clear now. But on EU/NA people seem to leave straight away all the time.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Could be that you're on an NA datacentre? I don't know what kind of person who leave it at this point though, you barely have to try to beat it.
    It's a problem that has been ingrained into many player's minds - even after the nerf they assume a group will fail and thus they leave. Which is silly. It's a shame, too, because the original fight was very cool and fun in my opinion. It felt like a race against time with very high stakes. I mean, it's meant to be the last stand to prevent Ishgard from being overrun after all...
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    Saccharin's Avatar
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    Blue Kitty
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's a problem that has been ingrained into many player's minds - even after the nerf they assume a group will fail and thus they leave. Which is silly. It's a shame, too, because the original fight was very cool and fun in my opinion. It felt like a race against time with very high stakes. I mean, it's meant to be the last stand to prevent Ishgard from being overrun after all...
    It's an execution fight, you need half the group to know what they are doing. Often I would explain the tacts and people just would not listen.
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    Xatsh Vei
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    Hyperion
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    The mechanics in A3 Savage are fine but the dps checks are too high over all is the problem. Remove/Reduce the insane dps checks and leave all other mechanics the same and the fight will be ok.

    The current level of difficulty is way to high for content that is negated so fast.

    Yea some people are killing it, but overall it is too far overturned. The you must have all your DDS and Healers dmging at this extreme level + all your tanks have to be full str spec with str accessories or you die and pld is not a viable class is what needs to be addressed. The fight needs to be killed with an appropriate geared pld (not full str spec) and healers that are not DPS focused. (Any one who says this is possible without I210 gear is lying to themselves).

    At this point though the dmg is already done, this content has caused many many ppl to quit the game already. They should of addressed this a month-month and half ago. I watched other guilds die and my guild lost nearly 50% of its raiders who said screw it and went to another game. And with patch 3.2 so close, SE probably should of just waited until the Ilvl increase and echo nerf. SE needs to learn from this, although I doubt they will.

    Thordan's difficult is fine though. That fight does not need to be nerfed.
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post

    At this point though the dmg is already done, this content has caused many many ppl to quit the game already. They should of addressed this a month-month and half ago. I watched other guilds die and my guild lost nearly 50% of its raiders who said screw it and went to another game.
    This is my primary concern with the state of some servers, mine included. I'm sure a good handful have gotten people xferring off to greg or balmung for the "grass is greener" mindset of a better raiding environment. Regardless of hte reason, it's happened and speaking from the perspective of famfrit, PF doesn't et more than 10 listings at a given time, the raiding scene is pretty dead, and you're hard pressed to find, let alone make, your own static if you weren't already in one. Transfering won't resolve the issue either and just leads to a deader server, on top of the investments and leaving behind your social networking and friends.

    It's not something they can fix with a patch, unless they decide to implement cross-realm PF or partying to increase the pool of players to draw from for statics or grouping.
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    Sky Scythe
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60

    Clarification V2.0

    Hey, that's my editorial! I wrote that.

    I addressed some very valid arguments made against the editorial, but it wound up being over double the maximum word count. So here is a screenshot of what I wrote:

    http://puu.sh/lLBD5/ff5dcc5134.png

    and here are the links to the arguments made, in the order they appear in the article. I hope this clears some stuff up.

    http://puu.sh/lLzGg/3cfdc2866a.png

    http://puu.sh/lLA3B/0708ca2087.png

    http://puu.sh/lLApT/0adca9fb73.png

    http://puu.sh/lLAGU/ebeff11c22.png

    Edit: Any issue you may take with this article should be directed at me, rather than MMOs.com, because this was my editorial, and my editor's job was to make it flow more smoothly, which he did rather well. Besides, I'm the one who needs to learn how to English good, not the site. :P
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    Last edited by Sky-Scythe; 12-07-2015 at 03:05 AM.

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    Daenaerys Targaryen
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sky-Scythe View Post
    Hey, that's my editorial! I wrote that.
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    The main problems is that the article makes it self out to be this is what happening in 3.15, okay may be a bit of speculation there. However none of it is possible. Very much sounds like you saying another 24-man raid will be added in 3.15, which wont happen. As well as it makes it sound like Thordan will get nerfed in 3.15, while yes one day its getting nerfed you're blind if you don't see that coming, its not happening in 3.15 for sure it only came out last month. As well as speculating Sky Pirate weapons in 3.15, as far as I know Yoshi only wants 24-man to drop gear 10ilvls lower then the cap. So no there is probably little to no chance of that happening.

    This is just some feedback, yeah its speculation but at least most speculations I read are within the realm of possibility. This seems more like what you and your friends want more then anything.
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Daenarys_Targaryen View Post
    This is just some feedback, yeah its speculation but at least most speculations I read are within the realm of possibility.
    This.

    If anything, this is a good example of why these types of articles shouldn't be trusted.
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    Archon Cina
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    Midgardsormr
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    I think they are listening to the playerbase. But they're listening to the players that sub for a month and quit, instead of the ones who've been around for a year or more. The content being put out is clear evidence of that.
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