The game is more dead than it was pre-3.1

[AeraLure]

I honestly am having trouble with the currency and token system. I have no idea how all of you kept at it for so long. I started in August I think it was. Played hard to get to level 60 and then joined the EX runs for Eso. Did that a few weeks before 3.1. That patch was exciting - for two weeks. Then it simply dawned on me - it's just two new dungeons to run ad infintum for Eso, Void Ark for a short cut or alternative to upgrade 200 to 210. However, it still doesn't change the fact that it's running those dungeons 12 weeks due to the Eso cap to gear up one character and 11 weeks of Void Ark to simultaneously gear up to 210. It'll be months until the next update that ups iLvl and then we will have a couple dungeons and a new currency in which to do all that again - never mind that there were Law and Poetics before this.


I've just stopped playing for a while. I still log in some to chat, and I miss it dearly - such good friends play this game in my FC and LS - but I cannot motivate myself to do EX and Void Ark runs anymore. Just on and on every day. I almost got another job to level 60, but gave up for the time being at level 58. I was originally going to gear this job with Diadem and iLvl 200 pieces from Void Ark (the token was going to my main who took all the Eso). It was a good plan. It sounds good on paper, but I don't think SE realizes how hard it is to actually do day after day. Really it just became a chore I did not look forward to. The content is too limited in the end game, the stats are too simple, the variation in gear too small and it doesn't have that exciting quality where any run of something you already did potentially giving you something useful (PSO and other games did this well - say what you will about RNG I loved it and it kept me playing old content). This latter thing is a problem - when I don't want to do my dailies, what else do I do? Run content I totally do not need that won't get me anything useful - with friends though - and granted that IS the best part. Game design-wise though I have found myself not liking it. It's hard now to play but also hard to retire, so I am in limbo at the moment.

[AstralKaos]

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Agreed 100% on this.

On a related, I played through 2.x since release, and not once had the level of boredom and lack of interest I have here. I liked 2.x a lot, but HW so far since arriving at the Hinterlands in the story has left me unfulfilled. I can count on one hand the things I like... which compared to ARR is tiny...

The thing that's made me most sad, with them literally just pressing a reset button and replacing the ARR content is that the replacement content pales in comparison, absurdly so, I could rag on and on about it, but won't... instead I'll say that right now I ain't so much as even hanging around HW areas, nor am I bothering so much with the content outside of weekly caps... instead I loiter around ARR zones and do what is now outdated yet miles better content in PF or solo.

I actively sought this content when it was new, and am still doing so after the fact, whereas things in HW like Alex, VA and most new dungeons... I did once and sigh when bringing myself to repeat them. I would love to go back in time and be eager to do as much of the content that's available again... something HW is failing massively to evoke in me.

[ShiloEET]

They should remake this entire game in a modern/futuristic setting.

[AzraelX]

I tihnk these cath up patches should be a thing of the past like many have said they are making their content irrelevant. Why would u even do that?

[Gardes]

I tihnk these cath up patches should be a thing of the past like many have said they are making their content irrelevant. Why would u even do that?

Because they need to cater to players who don't have the time to play the game. SE can't be wasting their time with stupid gameplays. Just get straight to the point and hand them the reward so can they go back to their lives. Strangely enough, when I played XI when XIV wasn't even a thing, lots of adults with busy lives seemed to deal with XI's demands just fine.

[Kadrothan]

Between the entirety of my FC, all LS channels, and friends list, this is the first time I've seen points where I'm one of -maybe- a dozen on out of over 1000 possible people. Peak periods I'll see some people on, but it's still noticeably more dead than before. I had a first time a few nights back where my entire FC/LS/Friend lists were showing everyone aside from me offline when there are normally at least a few people on. It's been disheartening to log in and watch everyone I know slowly disappear the further we get into the 3.x series. I think previous posters have stated what some of my issues are with this game really well. I just hope SE and the dev team manage to straighten this ship out sometime in the near future.

[Blood-Aki]

I tihnk these cath up patches should be a thing of the past like many have said they are making their content irrelevant. Why would u even do that?

Because that is slapping new players in the face, you're basically telling them "well, you missed that content when it was new so, tough luck, you're stuck" It's hard enough getting some of the content done for them since hardly anyone does them. Sometimes you have to think of others.

[Gardes]

Because that is slapping new players in the face, you're basically telling them "well, you missed that content when it was new so, tough luck, you're stuck" It's hard enough getting some of the content done for them since hardly anyone does them. Sometimes you have to think of others.

Not letting players experience the full fights is the slap in the face. Not letting collecting max ilvl gear after a few weeks of levelling isn't. Again, explain to me how destroying bosses in a couple minutes due to the sheer ilvl str of 7 others or telling a player to skip the fight because its not a gateway anymore is a service to new players? "dems the breaks bro"

[Blood-Aki]

Not letting players experience the full fights is the slap in the face. Not letting collecting max ilvl gear after a few weeks of levelling isn't. Again, explain to me how destroying bosses in a couple minutes due to the sheer ilvl str of 7 others or telling a player to skip the fight because its not a gateway anymore is a service to new players? "dems the breaks bro"

......what..?I'm not sure what i just read here.

[Bhuni]

Because that is slapping new players in the face, you're basically telling them "well, you missed that content when it was new so, tough luck, you're stuck" It's hard enough getting some of the content done for them since hardly anyone does them. Sometimes you have to think of others.

I wasn't aware every new player is entitled to 7 other experienced players to breeze them through content, what's wrong with them clearing content with other fellow new players exactly? Nothing they just can't be bothered socialising in an MMO.

This game holds your hand way too much and perhaps people do need a few slaps for the greater good.