Yoshi-P / Dev Team please considering adding Abyssea to this game

[Colorful]

The diadem is just part one, of many, from what it sounded like they wanted to do... :/

Yep, apparently we're going to getting a new map with 3.3. Let's hope they either reconsider, or significantly rework it so it's nothing like The Diadem in any way.

[Jinrya-Geki]

The troll is strong with you.

Take it how you want. The game needs another massive change.

[karateorangutang]

Take it how you want. The game needs another massive change.

But your suggesting that its the worst game on the market with that comment... which is just silly.

aka... troll-like

I don't know that the game "needs" a massive change. If there was a massive change it could easily alienate more players than keep, which is the opposite of the point of a game. Which is making money. You may not be happy, but don't transpose what people talk about on the forums with how the average player feels in the game. The forums are full of the most outspoken people that love to be heard and generally also contains the most opinionated. I am one of them too, but most all of the people that I talk to ingame aren't complaining about it, its just those that are advertising it over shouts and those melodramatic folk in FC's and LS's.

If the game is that dead to you take a 6 month break. It's what I did between 2.1 and 2.5. I came back with a wealth of things to do and it's been pretty fun playing catch up.

[Valleo]

Yep, apparently we're going to getting a new map with 3.3. Let's hope they either reconsider, or significantly rework it so it's nothing like The Diadem in any way.

All they would need to do to make Diadem more interesting is make it so that enemies don't respawn, and are a little more than trash with a lot of HP. Give us some objectives and ways to spawn NM's, and when you clear out the map everyone can gather without drama.

At least, that's how I thought it would be based on the promo vids we got. Super disappointed in the final product.

[karateorangutang]

All they would need to do to make Diadem more interesting is make it so that enemies don't respawn, and are a little more than trash with a lot of HP. Give us some objectives and ways to spawn NM's, and when you clear out the map everyone can gather without drama.

At least, that's how I thought it would be based on the promo vids we got. Super disappointed in the final product.

NM's that spawn in similar ways to how some of the S rank hunts spawn would be a cool way to make the diadem more interesting... and get some groups working together instead of trolling each other.

[Shinsaki]

I did play XI, and Abbysea was a game breaking content that absolutely invalidated every single piece of content other than itself in the game. There is alot of hate from people that played XI from the beginning for that state of affairs, as it literally broke the game from what it was before.

The level cap raise in XI was the straw that broke the camels back and forced alot of people that were considering leaving to finally do so.

I am completely and utterly against adding content like abbyssea here. It would be a nightmare and would complete invalidate the raiding scene. It would be a mindless leveling and gear spree that would no longer require any kind of mechanics.

I agree. This kind of content killed it for a lot of my LS.

[Colorful]

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I think the problem is in the core of the content, and that's the fact that isn't fun after the first few times. Objectives won't fix that, the only thing that will is a truly random zone. Let's take Diablo for example, adapt that into FFXIV. Make The Diadem, well, not the Diadem. 8 players enter a raid with paths and mobs that are randomized, loot is random, but bosses are set in stone. After a bit of dungeon crawling you enter the boss room, and it selects a boss out of a pool. That was the difficulty scale could actually matter, the content is tightly controlled and challenging, all while filling that loot pinata grindy niche.

It's obviously very different from The Diadem, but I'd rather they stop devoted resources into Diadem related content and more into something like that.

[Magis]

But your suggesting that its the worst game on the market with that comment... which is just silly.

aka... troll-like

That....

that isn't what a troll is. Also he never said it was the worst game out there. You literally put words in his mouth and then called him a troll burning down a straw man.

[karateorangutang]

That....

that isn't what a troll is.

People have over used that word to the point it has lot all meaning. Same with "toxic".

Sure, by definition, but that's not my point and you seem smart enough to realize that.

[Magis]

Sure, by definition, but that's not my point and you seem smart enough to realize that.

What is your point? Because he didn't say it was the worst game either. YOU put those words in his mouth and then started spouting about trolls. He is saying any option added to the game could make it better. He could be right or wrong, but that is his subjective opinion, and on this public forum he can state what he wants barring it fall in the rules. Since "finding the game not fun" isn't against the rules, I think he's allowed to, and doesn't constitute trolling in anyway.

You twisted that into something about WORST GAME EVER when that wasn't what he stated at all. And you know what? Even if he said that it STILL wouldn't be trolling.