The Bottom Feeders: Moves You Never Use and Why (Ver. 2)

[Phileas]

White Mage:
Repose - Last time I used this was to sleep an add in Brayflox...nuff said.


Scholar:
Energy Drain - The only time i really need this is if I have been rezzing more than i should be and need the MP.

[Nerael]

Scholar:
Energy Drain - The only time i really need this is if I have been rezzing more than i should be and need the MP.

Really? I use Energy drain quite often. Co-Healer usually keeps people neatly topped off with (Micro-managed) Eos helping.
I'm DPSing in the meantime, DOTs, Shadowflare and spamming Broil while DOTs tick away.
I start losing mana in that DPS moment, with a 13k MP pool once i reach like 8K I'll spam Energy drain followed by Aetherflow and I'm back to max MP.

While just plain healing and not DPS-Healing? Nah don't use it.

[Taika]

Scholar:
Energy Drain - The only time i really need this is if I have been rezzing more than i should be and need the MP.

Energy Drain is a vital part of SCH DPS. You should definitely use it often.

Many have mentioned Dissipation and that's the skill I don't really use either. In A2S I use Selene for the first part of the fight and then change to Eos for wave 6 (I think, the wave before the 4 dolls). Before the change I use Dissipation for a little DPS boost (Energy Drains) on the Widows.

[Nekotee]

Same as nerael... While in DPS mode a SCH lose a lot of mana and energy drain is a good part part of his DPS/mana regen

@Taika i never thought about this one... It's quite a good idea if time correctly you can spawn EoS right on p7
But it require a good main-heal ... Which i don't have XD
(I'm always paired with whm... Gimme a strong double target healer... Like an AST)

[AzureFlare]

But in keeping with the spirit of the thread and maybe not the letter: most useless thing on sch is the enhanced intelligence traits.

We doin' this? We doin' this.

Lightspeed and Benefic traits. Benefic trait has been more of a curse than a blessing to me if anything. Lightspeed trait is really only there for 'lol Gravity spam while kiting'.

[Sunako]

Dissipation is dps increase. I m using it often in the opener for some extra dps. You can get 450 more potency from extra energy drains.

[VanilleFang]

Every single overcure proc is a good opportunity to use cure III, after all is a 6y 550 potency aoe heal for 840 mp which will most likely heal the tank and any injured melee dps within range.

That's if you have melee though. And in places like WoD or whatever the bosses are sometimes huge, making the AoE not exactly large enough to hit all within melee range. But yeah, I suppose if you do get an overcure proc it is useful. But again, overcure is pretty rare in and of itself too.

And to those who say the range is tiny, it's the exact same size as the aoe circle shadow flare places on the ground.

Yeah, I personally think the size of its AoE is fine. Though in PUGs it is safer to use something like Medica or Medica II in most situations.

[LegoTechnic]

Many have mentioned Dissipation and that's the skill I don't really use either. In A2S I use Selene for the first part of the fight and then change to Eos for wave 6 (I think, the wave before the 4 dolls). Before the change I use Dissipation for a little DPS boost (Energy Drains) on the Widows.

Dissipation is dps increase. I m using it often in the opener for some extra dps. You can get 450 more potency from extra energy drains.

OK, I want to nip this in the bud early, as I don't want to encourage any SCHs to make uninformed mistakes, so I am going to type this in capitals to stress it so that it doesn't become a trend.

DISSIPATION HAS NO EFFECT ON DPS AT ALL. IT ONLY EFFECTS HEALING "SPELLS".

It does not increase your MND stat, nor does it effect any dot or direct damage you happen to do. This means Broil, Bio, or any other dot you pop will not receive a 20% increase in any form or function.

Dissipation will also NOT effect the SCH's non-spell abilities, which include Lustrate, Indomitability, and Energy Drain, as these are not considered to be spells and never gain benefit from either Dissipation or Fey Illumination. It will not even effect the amount of healing returned by Energy Drain, let alone the damage it does.

If anyone tells you otherwise then they have not bothered to test the abilities with a training dummy, or they are sadly misinformed.

[Taika]

OK, I want to nip this in the bud early, as I don't want to encourage any SCHs to make uninformed mistakes, so I am going to type this in capitals to stress it so that it doesn't become a trend.

DISSIPATION HAS NO EFFECT ON DPS AT ALL. IT ONLY EFFECTS HEALING "SPELLS".

I don't think anyone was claiming it adds to damage of spells abilities, only that you get extra Aetherflow stacks = extra Energy Drains.

It would be great if it would add to MND instead of healing magic potency so that it would affect damage in Cleric Stance, though.

[LegoTechnic]

I don't think anyone was claiming it adds to damage of spells abilities, only that you get extra Aetherflow stacks = extra Energy Drains.

It would be great if it would add to MND instead of healing magic potency so that it would affect damage in Cleric Stance, though.

Alright, that makes more sense. Sorry if I jumped to the wrong assumption.