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    Quote Originally Posted by fm_fenrir View Post
    All DPS gear has VIT on it too. I have 14.8k at 203 with DRG, and only 13.5k with my 196 PLD/DRK...
    You don't suppose that might have something to do with the fact that your Drg is ilvl 203, but your tanks are only ilvl 196? I'm no math whiz or anything, but I'm kind of working under the assumption that a 7 lvl difference in gear makes a small difference of some kind...

    I guess you did prove that it is possible though. I mean, a lvl 1 tank could hardly be expected to have more Hp than a lvl 50-60 Dps. So, there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    I guess you did prove that it is possible though. I mean, a lvl 1 tank could hardly be expected to have more Hp than a lvl 50-60 Dps. So, there's that.
    I was hoping someone with 200 left side gear might give numbers instead of being snide.
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    As far as numbers go, to put it simply, left side gear pieces all give the same amount of VIT per item level and if DoW/M. Item level 200 DoW left side set gives 419 VIT (376 for DoM), sans weapon. As a DRG, like in most other FF games, you have a higher natural VIT stat than other DoWs DPS. Obviously not tank high, due to the "Enhanced Vitality" trait, and tank job crystals giving about 10 more VIT.

    All that being said, a 7 ilvl difference is pretty significant, especially if most of your 200/210 pieces are on your left side. It's really not as far-fetched as some may think it is. In this game, the biggest difference in tanks vs DPS is (at this stage in the game, at the same ilvl) a near double defensive stats difference from other roles, and a much higher abundance of defensive cooldowns, along with a "tanking stance". Whereas in a lot of other MMOs, tanks tend to have nearly 2-3x the HP of their DPS, plus defensive CDs. Maybe we'll get there someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fm_fenrir View Post
    I was hoping someone with 200 left side gear might give numbers instead of being snide.
    Fair enough lol.

    Sadly, I could no longer give you the exact numbers for that bracket. Most of my Tank gear has graduated to 210, and a lot of it is upgraded so there is no going back (short of buying a whole new set). The best I could probably do to fill this request would be to scale back down to 190 with a full Str set and Hive weapons (pretty sure I still have all that stuff kicking around somewhere) to make things completely even... but honestly, I don't think there would be a point. I'm not logged in now, so I can't give you the exact numbers, but the enhanced vitality traits and status buffs from our soul crystals pretty much preclude the possibility of Tanks having an equal to lower Hp pool to Dps (even a Drg). Given that all gear scales roughly the same way with item lvl, it's a pretty safe bet that the result would be the same regardless of the item lvl bracket (190-200-210).
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    Last edited by Februs; 12-06-2015 at 06:29 PM.