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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Probably everything will be nerfed. Having content only few people can clear is not $$$healthy$$$ to the game.
    Actually it is very healthy. Gives something for people to strive toward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_Lenderson View Post
    Actually it is very healthy. Gives something for people to strive toward.
    Not when people don't want to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_Lenderson View Post
    Actually it is very healthy. Gives something for people to strive toward.
    Let me know how that worked out with Coil savage and the original Steps of Faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Let me know how that worked out with Coil savage and the original Steps of Faith.
    It stopped people from leaving instantly with Steps of Faith, so quite well I'd say. They aren't comparable types of content though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Let me know how that worked out with Coil savage and the original Steps of Faith.
    They have not nerfed savage coil. As for the current content, Savage nor Thordan gates story or have random matching so...
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    They have not nerfed savage coil. As for the current content, Savage nor Thordan gates story or have random matching so...
    Not the point I was making. If something is too hard and/or has no rewards (or worthless garbage as rewards) to motivate people, people will not bother to clear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    If something is too hard and/or has no rewards (or worthless garbage as rewards) to motivate people, people will not bother to clear it.
    I dare say steps of faith would qualify as giving substantial rewards, Heavensward being gated behind it and all.

    Motivation was at an all-time high there. Even so, it was nerfed, likely because Yoshi and the crew realized that forcing people to "git gut" doesn't work when people have the option to just leave the game instead.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    I dare say steps of faith would qualify as giving substantial rewards, Heavensward being gated behind it and all.

    Motivation was at an all-time high there. Even so, it was nerfed, likely because Yoshi and the crew realized that forcing people to "git gut" doesn't work when people have the option to just leave the game instead.
    The issue was Steps of Faith was done so badly by the player base that any time it popped up in the roulette, people would rather bail and take the 30 minute penalty than to deal with people who were new to the trial or were just bad at it. This, in turn, made it even more difficult for people who still needed to clear it since now nobody wanted to help them. I didn't see motivation. I saw people not wanting to waste their time on a trial that doesn't reset on a wipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Let me know how that worked out with Coil savage and the original Steps of Faith.
    Steps of Faith gated the story - so face roll mode is kinda assumed. However *SAVAGE* is not required for story at all.
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