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    Whiskey Bravo
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    They really nerfing Thordan? Come on

    After reading the blurb, this isn't an official statement but more like his opinion..

    Yoshi-P has stated as well that Arm of the Father Savage (A3s) has had disappointingly few clears, perhaps meaning we can expect a nerf of some sort. Personally, I think all of Alexander savage and The Minstrel’s Ballad: Thordan’s Reign (Thordan EX) will see some kind of nerf, because Yoshi-P has stated before he wants the game to be more accessible to casual players.
    "Perhaps"... "Personally, I think"...

    All opinion no fact. Sigh of relief maybe lol
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    Last edited by whiskeybravo; 12-08-2015 at 02:46 AM.

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    I am looking forward to a nerf. I had my static and even my FC break because it was so over the top hard.
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    The way SE babysits scrubs shows me a door out of this game .
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    Alincia Valeria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamsomeone View Post
    The way SE babysits scrubs shows me a door out of this game .
    Ok, see you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamsomeone View Post
    The way SE babysits scrubs shows me a door out of this game .
    Good, one less raider wanting to turn this game into a raid focused scene. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonThunder View Post
    Good, one less raider wanting to turn this game into a raid focused scene. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
    Wao, with this kind of attitude, this game may as well be a Social MMO like Second Life.
    Where do you think all the theorycrafting and those precious guides you so depend on but loathe to read come from if were not for the raid scene?
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    Last edited by CookieMonsta; 12-08-2015 at 07:45 PM.

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    Fiona Greentear
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonsta View Post
    Wao, with this kind of attitude, this game may as well be a Social MMO like Second Life.
    Where do you think all the theorycrafting and those precious guides you so depend on but loathe to read come from if were not for the raid scene?
    Wrong, anyone who can play their class well and know some math can make a guide.
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Wrong, anyone who can play their class well and know some math can make a guide.
    Heh, even people who don't know what they're talking about can do guides. I remember guides back in 2.0 saying that weapon damage wasn't the best stat "as it is only changing auto attack power" (sic)
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    I do hope all of the "wah wah scrub" salty boys in this thread have their AS3 or AS4 kill. I wouldn't want to read some more salty "don't diminish my e-peen you filthy rat" (Zephyrin is that you ? ) from people who have nothing to brag about, like back when coil was a thing.

    Noone would bat an eye if AS3 or AS4 were to be nrfed at this point. Everyone should have had more than enough time and overgear to overcome the challenge if they were competent enough (and cheese the way through AS4).


    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    Probably because it was propped up by echo. Story and savage was supposed to mean this wasn't needed but I'll not get into that again.

    I think you suffer from raider mentality.

    Although the best gear is available via raiding most players dont raid and have no intention to raid. It might seem like most players raid but in reality most dont, even the story mode. If servers fail it's usually because people always go to the high pop server so there's not as many new players going onto a server.
    There was no echo back in BCoB. Noone even knew echo would ever come one day. Still there ws no massive static breakdown at that time on th insane difficulty that were T2 (before th cheese was found) and T5 (before the twister nerf).

    And even after, in SCoB and FCoB, people weren't waiting for echo. Most raiders cleared all the raids before the echo came in
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 12-08-2015 at 08:39 AM.

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    Fiona Greentear
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    I think they could really settle this debate on the next raid tier with 3 difficulties.

    The normal one, tuned exactly like Alexander Normal: a DF story version, spammable for low level raid gear (no materia slots, no dye option, 20 ilvs lower than Hard/Savage)
    The hard one, tuned like SCoB: a midcore raid go-to with high tier level gear (materia slots, still no dye option)
    Savage, tuned exactly like today's AS3/AS4: drops augmentation items to make Hard version equips dyeable, with no ilv change. Totally superfluos, still something that the 1% super hardcore raiders can brag about and show out.

    I'd be happy with this.
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