Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
Back 2 Back Steel Cyclones with IR+Berserk+BloodBath was pretty potent in WP speed runs, and any other speed run I guess where you pull the whole place to the boss room(Keep in mind it negated the Defiance penalty where OP does not)Wrath stacks used to give % to crit b4 3.0, so you could just rip 20%increased crit chance OPs till you were ootp, then follow up with 2 SC right before the pacify. Now Decimate nullified that, so imo SC is less useful now than it used to be previously.
Spooky Ghost was referring to pre-2.1 patch, during which time your method would have been inefficient and far less effective.

Before 2.1, Steel Cyclone had greatly reduced enmity gen. Even if you spammed it (which you couldn't, at the time) you would be lucky to hold enmity on the entire mob. Also, Warrior's ability to self-heal was horrendously nerfed before 2.1, so it was near impossible to do Speed pulls and stay alive as a Warrior. Speed pulls weren't even really a thing back then, to be honest, but even if it was, Tp costs for almost all of War's moves were much higher, and the cooldown times of all of War's abilities were much longer. They were dramatically under-powered at the time.

SE ignored the problem for a long time, but finally decided to do something about it when the first set of the Binding Coil of Bahamut was implemented. War under-preformed in there spectacularly, leading to people using the job in ways that SE had "not intended" (which meant as a trash magnet or not at all). Pld was not much better off, but their CD's were much preferable for boss tanking. In the end, SE made changes to 12 different aspects of War's skill set (more if you include multiple changes to single moves, like Holmgang which got 4 changes alone). It was one of the biggest single patch changes to a job class this game has ever seen, and is the ground work for all of the lovely perfection that Warrior enjoys today. Without those fundamental changes, War would be the least used tank in the game, not the most used one.