So...about that white magitek mount

[Voltyblast]

I will firstly say that my red baron was a gift and I was strongly against it, but my friend and I decided to have one of each so I accepted it the gift: I didn't want to accept it at first but thanks to her I've been restarting to play so, it's the least I can do.

But with that said, I am against this idea of selling "recolored" mounts (let's face it, it's a recolor) and mainly because this will make them think that we will buy anything. But I suppose this is a Final Fantasy afterall...

If anything, I'm wondering what people would do when SE will put private housing on the mogstation for real money charged upon your current subscription. It's optional so you don't have to buy it, even though it's terribly made.

But it's optional right?

R-r-right?

[szalkerous]

If anything, I'm wondering what people would do when SE will put private housing on the mogstation for real money charged upon your current subscription. It's optional so you don't have to buy it, even though it's terribly made.

But it's optional right?

R-r-right?

Can we change that from "private housing" to "gardening instances" and tell me where to send all my money?

[Teryaani]

I will firstly say that my red baron was a gift and I was strongly against it, but my friend and I decided to have one of each so I accepted it the gift: I didn't want to accept it at first but thanks to her I've been restarting to play so, it's the least I can do.

Relax, you don't need to justify accepting a gift or even purchasing something from the cash shop.

But with that said, I am against this idea of selling "recolored" mounts (let's face it, it's a recolor).

I've bought a fair number of things from the cash shop (slepnir, minions, fantasia), but I'm probably giving these a miss for this reason. Someone said the music was different, do they have different animations or is it the same as the standard magitek?

If anything, I'm wondering what people would do when SE will put private housing on the mogstation for real money charged upon your current subscription. It's optional so you don't have to buy it, even though it's terribly made.

I can't see them ever doing this. Gating instanced housing behind the Vundu beast tribe quests? Maybe. Putting it in the cash shop seems a huge leap from their current behavior with the cash shop.

But it's optional right?

Yup. It truly is optional.

R-r-right?

Honest and for-true. The white and red magiteks aren't necessary in the game. They're just a pretty recolor of an existing mount. If you like it and want to spend the money (or accept the gift), go for it. Otherwise don't.

[Voltyblast]

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First of all, I appreciate your leniency: quite a big shocker to be honest, for someone like me who had to name change and race change to avoid haters. I had people hating on me for far less!

But to be honest the main issue here isn't about these 2 mounts: they are optional, yes, we know that. I don't care either and I'm sure that if someone wants it they'll buy it.

The problem begins when they'll start putting EVERYTHING on the cash shop: we have mounts and costumes already, which could be easily implemented in-game via events or whatnot. These costumes are nothing major, you're right, but then what happens when they'll start adding things that could potentially make the game pay to win? It will soon become mandatory and not just optional, making this game on par with SWTOR in terms of cash shop exclusive items and I'm sure as "eff" that nobody wants to copy that (even though I do like that game, just not as a f2p)

We have mounts and costumes for now...but then when they'll add exp boosts, special buffs or even a "possible" house on the cash shop, you have nobody to blame but the community: they were fine buying and buying the cash shop items so much, that SE realized this and might make everything be a paywall. It will be a pay-to-win game at this rate: maybe not tomorrow or next year, but at this rate of things and content delivered in the shop they might evemtiaòòu put more vital items such as weapons, armors and even additional customization options.

I mean, here's what they could think at one point:
"Hey, people are buying the mount because it's of a different color and has a barely noticeable music in it? Let's put more of that stuff!!" - "Wait, we could try putting this tiny little armor in the game and see if it sells!" - "WOW IT'S SELLING LIKE HOTCAKES, let's put weapons in it too!" - "Screw it, let's put entire armor sets: people buy anything we throw at them!"

And that's why we are complaining: it's not about the current mounts and items into the cash shop, it's what they could lead in the long run.

[Teryaani]

First of all, I appreciate your leniency: quite a big shocker to be honest, for someone like me who had to name change and race change to avoid haters. I had people hating on me for far less!

I'm sorry you've dealt with that. Was this on Balmung? I'm looking to server transfer from Siren to either Balmung or Famfrit and if it's going to be Moon Guard-esque jerkery on Balmung, I'll head to Famfrit instead.

The problem begins when they'll start putting EVERYTHING on the cash shop: we have mounts and costumes already, which could be easily implemented in-game via events or whatnot. These costumes are nothing major, you're right, but then what happens when they'll start adding things that could potentially make the game pay to win? It will soon become mandatory and not just optional, making this game on par with SWTOR in terms of cash shop exclusive items and I'm sure as "eff" that nobody wants to copy that (even though I do like that game, just not as a f2p)

We have mounts and costumes for now...but then when they'll add exp boosts, special buffs or even a "possible" house on the cash shop, you have nobody to blame but the community: they were fine buying and buying the cash shop items so much, that SE realized this and might make everything be a paywall. It will be a pay-to-win game at this rate: maybe not tomorrow or next year, but at this rate of things and content delivered in the shop they might evemtiaòòu put more vital items such as weapons, armors and even additional customization options.

I mean, here's what they could think at one point:
"Hey, people are buying the mount because it's of a different color and has a barely noticeable music in it? Let's put more of that stuff!!" - "Wait, we could try putting this tiny little armor in the game and see if it sells!" - "WOW IT'S SELLING LIKE HOTCAKES, let's put weapons in it too!" - "Screw it, let's put entire armor sets: people buy anything we throw at them!"

And that's why we are complaining: it's not about the current mounts and items into the cash shop, it's what they could lead in the long run.

Completely valid concern. Right now all we have to go on is Yoshi's own stance on this and that is that anything that impacts stats or gives you a leg up in any way in content is a no-go. He said no pay to win and until SE does something that violates that I'm going to trust that they'll stick with it. I know the house isn't pay to win either, but that would be a line crossed for most of us I think and I like to believe that SE knows that as well.

Has SE been fibby (looking at you personal housing statement from Yoshi) in the past? YUP! And I completely understand the suspicion. Me personally, I'm trusting them on this until they overstep the line in my head.

[Voltyblast]

I'm sorry you've dealt with that. Was this on Balmung? I'm looking to server transfer from Siren to either Balmung or Famfrit and if it's going to be Moon Guard-esque jerkery on Balmung, I'll head to Famfrit instead.

I just wanted to answer this: yes it was. I'm using an alternate character for the forums to avoid backlash in game (I hadn't got any right now, but a friend of mine was constantly bashed for his thread about the MSQ lock for HW, so I'm being double careful myself). Honestly, I don't want to be the one to tell you that it's bad: I recommend putting a thread on the forum and get legitimate answers. The last thing I want is my opinion to sway potential lovers of Roleplay because -I- had a bad experience. Don't take my opinion for granted: I recommend asking yourself to the forums.

[Teryaani]

I just wanted to answer this: yes it was. I'm using an alternate character for the forums to avoid backlash in game (I hadn't got any right now, but a friend of mine was constantly bashed for his thread about the MSQ lock for HW, so I'm being double careful myself). Honestly, I don't want to be the one to tell you that it's bad: I recommend putting a thread on the forum and get legitimate answers. The last thing I want is my opinion to sway potential lovers of Roleplay because -I- had a bad experience. Don't take my opinion for granted: I recommend asking yourself to the forums.

I appreciate the response. I'll make an alt there during an opening and see how that goes. Thanks again!

[Dualblade]

If anything, I'm wondering what people would do when SE will put private housing on the mogstation for real money charged upon your current subscription. It's optional so you don't have to buy it, even though it's terribly made.

As someone who doesn't mind the cash shop, nor care much about personal housing even if it was all nice right now, I would defintly be on the protest side with this, and I'm pretty sure most players regardless of region would not put up with it. I'd actually consider that to be P2W honestly.

That said again, I don't mind what they have done with the cash shop so far, beyond that I wish we had a bit more put into atleast the Gold Saucer instead. Also again, if 4-man dungeons/raids become a thing a Castrum/Prae should be the first two and have the mounts as very rare drops.

Sleipnir should have dropped off of Odin. These should have been obtainable in-game. Cash shops are the ultimate casual garbage. "I don't want to actually play the game to get stuff, I just want it mailed to me."

Whenever they add in Urth's Fount EX (or whatever the next Odin fight is eventually called), Sleipnir should be added with a drop rate atleast as low as original ponies, and said drop rate should never increase because its in the cash shop. Also would be a good time to add in flying function for it.