So...about that white magitek mount

[Fevelle]

Sounds like someone is mad.



Personally was an early Christmas gift to myself.

I just saw one today and that thing GLOWS. I'm getting mine as soon as I get home.

[Teryaani]

I just saw one today and that thing GLOWS. I'm getting mine as soon as I get home.

I may have to amend my earlier statement. Those may end up on my mount list.

[AlphaFox]

I'll be honest the glow is a side benefit but I have always loved the White magitek, couldn't say no as soon as I saw it.

[Lorielle]

So I've been keeping tabs on these topics and they all sound the same. It sounds like it comes down to two things:

1. Re-Skins not being available in game, but for money
2. Future of items being implemented for Cash Shop

Mostly the former than the latter. For what reason? Because these people complaining also want the mount, but don't want to spend extra money on it. Now that's your decision to do so, much like it's people who wish to buy the mounts without a care in the world. Playing Devil's Advocate, why not pay the extra money to help support SE's future(seeing we know XIV's success is being used for other projects anyway)? People will complain one way or another even if it was in-game. Ponies were asked twenty times over to be raised on rates. People complained about Twintania being available through Recruit a Friend(not cash Shop, but hey, not in game. SE is evil).

As other posters mentioned, all you did was pay for a membership to access the club. What other additional features that are in the club may or may not be included. You have perhaps years of content potentially at your disposal for your subscription, so, what is the issue for a business trying to make a little extra, I wonder? As I mentioned to some people in game, it's literally a day's worth meal at best unless you're being super saving with cash(which playing XIV may not be in the best of interests).

[CyrilLucifer]

Mostly the former than the latter.. . . Playing Devil's Advocate, why not pay the extra money to help support SE's future(seeing we know XIV's success is being used for other projects anyway)? People will complain one way or another even if it was in-game.

Because I don't want to support this future that SE is heading towards. SE has already fallen down the slippery slope once with paid content, with All the Bravest. Remember that? That game was received abysmally worldwide and was "pay to do anything at all" while also being pay to play - seeing the results of that game, your whole "club" argument falls extremely flat, because they can be also be used for that game as well.

Cash shop debates are nothing more than beating a dead horse and I won't bother, but the fact is, prices in this particular cash shop have gotten progressively more expensive over time because SE knows people are willing to buy them - that doesn't mean they should be becoming more expensive. There's no effort being put into this; these mounts are not content that takes much time to make - look at any game that supports modding and you'll see things that take far more time and effort than a recolor. In fact, the mods, free content that do recolor often retexture entirely, making them look cleaner overall.

Also, I don't mind spending $12 on a game, but if I'm going to spend $12, it's going to be on something I can actually play, not something that makes me look pretty for a week before I get bored with it and start using other mounts.

[Lorielle]

Because I don't want to support this future that SE is heading towards. SE has already fallen down the slippery slope once with paid content, with All the Bravest. Remember that? That game was received abysmally worldwide and was "pay to do anything at all" while also being pay to play - seeing the results of that game, your whole "club" argument falls extremely flat, because they can be also be used for that game as well.

I can't argue you with All the Bravest since I didn't play it. The difference between that and this though are night and day. One enhances the game play. The other does not. I still remember Final Fantasy Record Keeper doing quite well. It still has its own pay to win features, but that's completely optional(though it's more akin to pay for extra chances like Fate Grand Order).

Cash shop debates are nothing more than beating a dead horse and I won't bother, but the fact is, prices in this particular cash shop have gotten progressively more expensive over time because SE knows people are willing to buy them - that doesn't mean they should be becoming more expensive. There's no effort being put into this; these mounts are not content that takes much time to make - look at any game that supports modding and you'll see things that take far more time and effort than a recolor. In fact, the mods, free content that do recolor often retexture entirely, making them look cleaner overall.

Even I'm aware that some of the stuff is expensive, but it's only a one time thing unless you're a frequent race changer or must have a numerous set of dyes. That's all on you. There's always people going to be willing to buy because it is stuff they want and that they have no qualms with spending money on. I'm not arguing that the mounts took much effort or anything at all.

Also, I don't mind spending $12 on a game, but if I'm going to spend $12, it's going to be on something I can actually play, not something that makes me look pretty for a week before I get bored with it and start using other mounts.

See, this line of reasoning, I have no problem with. Because you are choosing what to do with your money. That's fine and dandy. But the issue I am seeing is people are annoyed that these mounts(as little effort as it may be) are not available to them. Instead they are cash shop only. So a vocal set are sharing their disappointment because one's value of 12 dollars(or 24) is not the same as someone else's.

[Brannigan]

Sleipnir should have dropped off of Odin. These should have been obtainable in-game. Cash shops are the ultimate casual garbage. "I don't want to actually play the game to get stuff, I just want it mailed to me."

Here's a quick list of possible places they could have put these reskins:

Achievement: Help 50 players get their first clear of Castrum Meridianum
Drop: Minstrel's Ballad: Castrum Meridianum
A new quest line
Crafting
Free Company crafting
Just make the regular magitek mount dye-able like Chocobos.


I don't even want the mounts, but there's a clear flow of things in MMORPGs. Subscription->Content->Rewards. This skips the content, which is what you're actually supposed to be paying for.

[Lorielle]

Sleipnir should have dropped off of Odin. These should have been obtainable in-game. Cash shops are the ultimate casual garbage. "I don't want to actually play the game to get stuff, I just want it mailed to me."

Oh please. The game as a majority is casual beyond belief. These items are nothing but glamour and do nothing but such. I don't know about you, but I earned my 12/24 bucks or however much I want to spend on that cash shop in real life. God forbid someone wants to buy themselves or someone else something nice with their hard earned work.

[Brannigan]

The game as a majority is casual beyond belief. These items are nothing but glamour and do nothing but such.

Exactly. They regularly release content that rewards nothing BUT glamours (read: every dungeon released since 2.1, the entirety of Gold Saucer). Glamours are rewards for doing content in the game. Primals drop horses. Paying for stuff like this instead is basically just skipping actually doing stuff so you can idle in Lavender Beds or whatever looking pretty.

I don't know about you, but I earned my 12/24 bucks or however much I want to spend on that cash shop in real life. God forbid someone wants to buy themselves or someone else something nice with their hard earned work.

Again, "I don't want to play the game, just let me buy it."

[Lorielle]

Snippy

Since this is a mount issue, this is two mounts(technically 4 if you count Sleip and Twin), available outside of game means. Against how many already available to us? Someone give me the number. 3 of which you can pay if you want them. 1 you just recruit others. Uhh, no. Glamours may be the rewards for most of what's being done, but SE certainly hasn't said that would be the only place you would find them. That is something you and many others deduced and believed to be the truth. In turn, shame on SE for doing something that betrayed your beliefs.

And how does that statement translate into that? That's some whack translation job there. Anyone who buys things is a pushover? That's a cool deduction, yo. Next you're gonna tell me the people that buy cash shop junk buy gil too.