Absolute frustration at not being able to see my own DPS (ps4)

[Azazua_azura]

Of course it hasn't. This question is always conveniently ignored.

The question is baited thats why, anyone can and will see it being baited. A better question is, why should all players in all content be subjected to play at the top tier level when maybe they don't want to? Maybe people are satified with beating content and not how big their number was? Blanketing all players to play as a top tier raider in all content is what slowly killed ff11 for some. Every player was told to gear swap or quit the game no matter the content. Even leveling people did it before GoV tomes.

I think the game is fine as it is, keep parser use to top tier players in preformed groups for toip tier raid content, and let those who don't wish to play at that level (or can't due to personal things) be abler to play in a relaxed enviroment.

[Azazua_azura]

This is so wrong I'm not even sure where to begin...

Do people like you really think rotations are created just by talking to people who play the same class? Really? All the rotations available online come from people parsing. All of them.

SE doesn't give people rotations. People don't just make it up and stick to it arbitrarily. THEY ALL USE PARSERS.

That rotation you found on reddit that you're currently using? Parsed.

Thats not true...

ff11 2002 PS2 only jp ff11 2003 jp pc ff11 2003 later that year pc NA launch ff11 2004 NA ps2 launch.

ff14 2.0 pc/ps3 launch. A good amount of jp players are ps3.

MMo pre-parser Everquest, Ultima.

Pre-mmo MUD, MUSH Parser not allowed.

How do you think rpg are played offline??

[Elazu]

The question is baited thats why, anyone can and will see it being baited. A better question is, why should all players in all content be subjected to play at the top tier level when maybe they don't want to? Maybe people are satified with beating content and not how big their number was? Blanketing all players to play as a top tier raider in all content is what slowly killed ff11 for some.

First of all, nobody expects people to play like top tier raiders, even though you might want people to believe this to further your terrible agenda. People are not wrong to expect more than first coil dps from people at level 60, i200. If people don't want to carry their own weight, they shouldn't do group content, it's as simple as that. The other 3/7/23 players are not there to carry you, just because you can't be bothered to do more than auto-attacking.

Not to mention that tanks and healers get kicked all the time for not performing their job, but for some unexplained reason dps players need a free pass and can do as terrible as they want, because it's their 15 bucks a month. Kick them for not doing their job (no, doing i80 dps at lvl60 is NOT doing your job) and you're a dirty elitist. Kick a tank or healer for not doing their job and you are the savior.

Ridiculous.

[zosia]

The question is baited thats why, anyone can and will see it being baited. A better question is, why should all players in all content besubjected to play at the top tier level when maybe they don't want to? Maybe people are satified with beating content and not how big their number was? Blanketing all players to play as a top tier raider in all content is what slowly killed ff11 for some. Every player was told to gear swap or quit the game no matter the content. Even leveling people did it before GoV tomes.

I think the game is fine as it is, keep parser use to top tier players in preformed groups for toip tier raid content, and let those who don't wish to play at that level (or can't due to personal things) be abler to play in a relaxed enviroment.

You're making a false equivilancy with that question.

Parser =/= automatic highest level of gameplay. Anyone can improve from the cutting edge players to the fresh level 60 newb. The newbie improving with a parser does not mean they are playing at the highest level. It merely means that they are playing at an improved level.

I bolded that because the OP does not want to play like you. They want a parser so they can improve while playing on a ps4. You are just supporting an intentional handicap to all ps3 and ps4 players. How selfish of you.

[Kazumac]

keep parser use to top tier players in preformed groups for toip tier raid content, and let those who don't wish to play at that level (or can't due to personal things) be abler to play in a relaxed enviroment.

No thank you. I'm an officer of a very casual FC (go look at my raiding track record, I'm not a raider in disguise) but we still want to be able to quantifiably know how we are doing. Many us us are on PS4 and don't have the option. We don't tell people they need to parse or anything like that but the genuine desire to be better and frustration of not being able to do so on their own is real for my members. You don't want to use one fine, others don't, fine too. But do not hold the rest of us back please and thx. Just because we don't savage doesn't mean we are ok with the state of things.

- Just a friendly FC officer looking out for the casuals who want to be better too

[Critical-Limit]

The question is baited thats why, anyone can and will see it being baited. A better question is, why should all players in all content be subjected to play at the top tier level when maybe they don\\'t want to?

No one is arguing that casuals can't play bad if they want to.

Did you even read the OP?

A PS4 player who WANTS to self improve can\\'t, because you dont have empathy and can't put yourself in the shoes of someone who enjoys self improvement. And just because one jerk out of hundreds might say "you're bad and I got evidence" instead of just "you're bad" is horrible reasoning to block someone from wanting to be the best they can be.

They are literally losing a right to a tool, that PC has, while your side just occasionally might get their ego bruised by someone who can be black listed.

[Zojha]

Do people like you really think rotations are created just by talking to people who play the same class? Really? All the rotations available online come from people parsing. All of them.

Because not a single person was able to calculate 1.1x150 and see that it is bigger than 150. Or calculating 40x6 + 150 and see that it is bigger than 320. Or seeing that 150 + 100 is bigger than 150 + 0.

I mean, that's, like...rocket science!

I'm surprised a parser could even be programmed, considering it requires knowledge of basic addition and division. Truly, a math wizard must have done it. No regular mortal can possibly possess such knowledge.

[Elazu]

Because not a single person was able to calculate 1.1x150 and see that it is bigger than 150. Or calculating 40x6 + 150 and see that it is bigger than 320. Or seeing that 150 + 100 is bigger than 150 + 0.

I mean, that's, like...rocket science!

I'm surprised a parser could even be programmed, considering it requires knowledge of basic addition and division. Truly, a math wizard must have done it. No regular mortal can possibly possess such knowledge.

Oooooh boy

[Odett]

The question is baited thats why, anyone can and will see it being baited. A better question is, why should all players in all content be subjected to play at the top tier level when maybe they don't want to? Maybe people are satified with beating content and not how big their number was? Blanketing all players to play as a top tier raider in all content is what slowly killed ff11 for some. Every player was told to gear swap or quit the game no matter the content. Even leveling people did it before GoV tomes.

I think the game is fine as it is, keep parser use to top tier players in preformed groups for toip tier raid content, and let those who don't wish to play at that level (or can't due to personal things) be abler to play in a relaxed enviroment.

You're talking about baited questions, yet you're going to extremes yourself. Why does it have to be "play mediocre" or "min-max"? Many players have the notion that performing your correct rotation is min-maxing, but it goes so much beyond that. Playing your correct rotation is the least you should do as a DPS, min-maxing and playing at top level is much more involving.

A better question is, why should all players in all content be subjected to play at the top tier level when maybe they don't want to? Maybe people are satified with beating content and not how big their number was

Because you keep ignoring that some content in this game DOES require players to play at the top tier level. If they don't want to, then they should not be doing this content unless they're paying for a carry because they are a hindrance to their group, and that sounds pretty selfish to me. Some content requires big numbers to get past certain phases, and players who are not playing at that level should be held accountable for it, but again, you keep ignoring this and insist that DPS players playing as they should is a luxury rather than an expectation.

Fact is, if healers and tanks played at the level that many DPS players in this game do, tanks wouldn't be able to hold enmity, causing wipes, and healers would not be able to react in time to keep party members alive. Whenever wipes like these happen, everyone is quick to point the finger at a tank or healer, but god forbid that you tell a DPS player that their numbers are low and are getting in the way of a clear. The job of a tank is to keep enmity and use their cooldowns, healers must keep the group alive, and if they are comfortable, they can add to the damage being done, and DPS are expected to DPS, not be absolved of any responsibilities, and it's a double standard if you think otherwise.

Furthermore, even in easy content like A1N, the only reason that the DPS who pulls extremely low numbers is clearing the fight is because the other 3 members are making up for their lack of damage.

[Critical-Limit]

Because not a single person was able to calculate 1.1x150 and see that it is bigger than 150. Or calculating 40x6 + 150 and see that it is bigger than 320. Or seeing that 150 + 100 is bigger than 150 + 0.

I mean, that's, like...rocket science!

I'm surprised a parser could even be programmed, considering it requires knowledge of basic addition and division. Truly, a math wizard must have done it. No regular mortal can possibly possess such knowledge.

Basic math doesn't calculate all the little ins and outs.. I guess you've never noticed sometimes when you bootshine it's this number and sometimes it's this number those are important factors that doing 1000x150 won't show you. I'm not even sure YOU understand math.

How about I tell you my monk gear and my rotation and you give me the exact numbers I should land in a 3 minute phase. I'll even give you 50dps wiggle room.