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    Waliel's Avatar
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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona_Nightwind View Post
    Parsers are really bad. They were originally created by the CIA for mind control. They have a direct link to the JFK assassination and every other major assassination attempt in the 20th century.
    I can confirm this. My cousin's friend's uncle's cat used a parser and killed many a bird.
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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Parsers without proper knowledge on how to interprete them are just useless, and most people if not all dont know how to interprete what they read, they only see numbers and judge based on those numbers and not put them into context, healer not DPSing...why?...tank not dpsing why?...BRD poorly performing why ? BLM poorly performing why ?....you never see that asked or so rarely that it is just in the unheard Spectrum. The important isnt to say *get good* is to understand WHY things are happening, to be honest you all want perfect player but instead of trying ot help them, you all stigmatize them and as a result you all are complaining that people are not good or people dont help otehrs to get better. Maybe the solution is not in the parser that will just increase and give a reason official this time to frustrate even more new players or poorly geared players or what not but in everyone of us to help ohters to become better, not only friends....you know like a community would work for the good of the community..eh?

    Not to mention teh stronger helping the weaker..that too exists..you know
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    Parsers without proper knowledge on how to interprete them are just useless, and most people if not all dont know how to interprete what they read, they only see numbers and judge based on those numbers and not put them into context, healer not DPSing...why?...tank not dpsing why?...BRD poorly performing why ? BLM poorly performing why ?....you never see that asked or sorarely that it is just in the unheard Spectrum.
    Some people not being able to understand information is not really a great reason to withhold the information from everyone. Imagine that happened with the news, "Today, we are removing all of our headlines, as we've discovered a portion of our reader-base does not properly understand the current events."

    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    The important isnt to say *get good* is to understand WHY things are happening, to be honest you all want perfect player but instead of trying ot help them, you all stigmatize them and as a result you all are complaining that people are not good or people dont help otehrs to get better. Maybe the solution is not in the parser that will just increase and give a reason official this time to frustrate even more new players or poorly geared players or what not but in everyone of us to help ohters to become better, not only friends....you know like a community would work for the good of the community..eh?
    Why are you prejudging our actions and words. I have many times helped out other people. However, with a parser it would be easier.. for example:

    Situation 1:
    Me: Hey, SMN, btw you should be using Ruin II and auto attack, spamming painflare/fester/raging/fester/deathflare/aether/tri-disaster/fester (I am simplifying atm) to maximize your DPS.
    SMN: Shut the f*** up, you play your job, I'll play mine.
    Me: Actually, I am a SMN.
    SMN: (silent for rest of the dungeon).

    Situation 2:
    Me: Hey, SMN, your DPS is a little low (he'll look over and see he is doing 600, while I am doing 1100), by (same as above)
    SMN: Ah, OK, thanks


    Obviously, I embellished, the first person doesn't need to respond that way and the 2nd person could be a jerk. However, the main point is having that value adds credibility to your advice.
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    Ryan Norris
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post

    Not to mention teh stronger helping the weaker..that too exists..you know
    Get out of here Ronaldo Kuriki. I'd rather side with Yamato.
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    you all want perfect player... you all stigmatize... you all are complaining
    is this actually aimed at anyone in particular, or just randomly "all of yous behind your pcs, this is all yous fault" *shakes fist*
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    @ ryel

    My apologies then but you shoulda made it clear you was PC DCUO player NOT a ps3 dcuo player as there was a huge difference between the 2. And dcuo is not cross platform, and ps3 version had a cess-pool community. Which is what people demostrated.

    I wasn't trying to type that as a harrassment just an observation on how you have been posting, which is you quoyte a person and try to discredit their opinion.

    @ poster mockinbg my harrassment as a new tank

    It takes alot for me to get anxiety in mmo around player insults, and I've been told I was a bad rdm for 4 years in ff11 simply due i didn't like back-line healing I shrug that stuff off. The type of insults I was subjected too was blatent personal attacks calling me a horses rear end, my family is full of scrubs and why did they let thweir kid play video games think of the worst possible insults and I was subjected to them. Thing is I'm open minded to how I play, I look for tips and try to improve and I apologies for not playing well. I never do the I play how I want argument. I don't think it was needed to insult me to that level when I'm open to improve.

    Alot of these insults happen over me not pulling fast enough or not being good enough to hold hate over precasting attack on pull blms who use fire 3, while waring top tier gear and I'm waring not top tier gear.

    @ the comment about me saying you use a parser is banable.

    I meant to say reportable, and this what was said from a gm, due to third party tools being against the tos simply saying you use one is reportable, it goes for parser as well. Only in preformed groups its more or less ok to ask/tell about parser due to in most cases preformed groups are with friends/fc mates so no one will report you for talking about it. In DF you may run into a gm brown noser who will report you and are with in the right to do so.


    @ thread

    I have said numerious time i personally don't care who uses a parser, I was just giving my opinion to having a dislike for them because the pro parser side is going above and beyond to discredit others opinions or claiming it doesn't/will not happen. Any long time player of ff11 knows it will happen. Parser to my understanding wasn't a thing till WoW ff11 pc players started to use windower and various plug ins and became more cruder as the game aged and more ppl opted to play pc.

    Simply put, this would turn into another gear swap problem where no matter what type of content was, raiding leveling what not if you didn't gear swap you was a bad player and scum of the earth, or human filth that should rot and die. (two things i was subjected to in the later years of ff11 over my not able to gear swap due to lack of macro room).
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    Last edited by Azazua_azura; 12-03-2015 at 04:02 AM.

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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    The question is baited thats why, anyone can and will see it being baited. A better question is, why should all players in all content be subjected to play at the top tier level when maybe they don\\'t want to?
    No one is arguing that casuals can't play bad if they want to.

    Did you even read the OP?

    A PS4 player who WANTS to self improve can\\'t, because you dont have empathy and can't put yourself in the shoes of someone who enjoys self improvement. And just because one jerk out of hundreds might say "you're bad and I got evidence" instead of just "you're bad" is horrible reasoning to block someone from wanting to be the best they can be.

    They are literally losing a right to a tool, that PC has, while your side just occasionally might get their ego bruised by someone who can be black listed.
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical-Limit View Post
    They are literally losing a right to a tool, that PC has, while your side just occasionally might get their ego bruised by someone who can be black listed.
    Losing a right? We have no rights in regards to XIV, we only have the privilege of playing as afforded by our subscription fees. Square has every right regarding the game for whatever reasons they see fit. It's all laid out in the EULA. Noone has a problem with personal parsers, not even the anti-parser crowd. It's the public parsers people are arguing over, or the potential demand to have personal parser data made public solely for the purposes of scrutiny.
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Losing a right? We have no rights in regards to XIV, we only have the privilege of playing as afforded by our subscription fees. Square has every right regarding the game for whatever reasons they see fit. It's all laid out in the EULA. Noone has a problem with personal parsers, not even the anti-parser crowd. It's the public parsers people are arguing over, or the potential demand to have personal parser data made public solely for the purposes of scrutiny.
    Why not come up with an actual counter-argument instead of arguing semantics?
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Because not a single person was able to calculate 1.1x150 and see that it is bigger than 150. Or calculating 40x6 + 150 and see that it is bigger than 320. Or seeing that 150 + 100 is bigger than 150 + 0.

    I mean, that's, like...rocket science!

    I'm surprised a parser could even be programmed, considering it requires knowledge of basic addition and division. Truly, a math wizard must have done it. No regular mortal can possibly possess such knowledge.
    Basic math doesn't calculate all the little ins and outs.. I guess you've never noticed sometimes when you bootshine it's this number and sometimes it's this number those are important factors that doing 1000x150 won't show you. I'm not even sure YOU understand math.

    How about I tell you my monk gear and my rotation and you give me the exact numbers I should land in a 3 minute phase. I'll even give you 50dps wiggle room.
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