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  1. #191
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    First I just wanted to say, Don't bring up fears/anxiety and phobias and mock them. I'm of Austistum Spectrum << what dr are calling it now. Aka aspergers, main symptoms are coordinations issues, high anxiety and social/behavioral issues (i have a hard time expressing my thoughts well, and tend to get frustratesd over it)


    I also was diagnosed with ADD which is now AD/HD, my symptoms are over focusing, memory (on somethings) and I have a hard time reading numarical equations such as ratios (to a point, i can read basic ones like miles per hour) Algibra and sometimes basic math.

    I don't use either disability as a crutch, i just do what I can to set things up so I play well. Such as taking off all numerical data since all the chatlog spam/flying numbers was causing me to loose focus, and just making me confused. And on a few jobs I use macros to help my coordination issues so I know i'm doing needed skills when I to. Such as applying dots then using bane, or putting swift case with raise/protect.

    I see myself as a hardcore gamer, i bang myhead against the wall making sure every hotbar for every class is laid out fluidedly to do what I need to do. I practice my skill use for ours going as far as to have my b/f be a healer and we undersize dungeons just o i can get better in dungeon senarios.

    I also DISPISE being lazy or carried, and due to my experiences in ff11 i dispise being called a bad player.

    What i dislike, is this hive mind mentality that you have to know numbers to be a good player, i also dislike a majority of posts in this thread from people coming off as bullies.Going as far as to say anything to discredit a persons opinion or personal experience.

    I have had 0 issues doing any content you guys keep listing, the only content i have not done YET is alex savage, which i do want to get into.

    This is the thing about parsers is, one key issue. there is no such thing as a personal parser, hivemind mentality would dictate that you wou;d need to show or tell numbers. And again from my personal experience people bring that mindset oyut of raiding and into everyday playing. Even with out a personal parser that is already happening. ff14 2.0 started off with a great community, now a days it isn't so much. Once i broke up with my ex and started to play more, i was harrassed very often when I was a fresh tank, to the point of nearly having panic attacks trying to explain I'm new, or saying I'm sorry for new. I'm a HUGE apologist when I know I'm playing subpar.

    I personally don't need numbers to know if I'm playing well or not, and I don't want that stuff forced on me giving me unneeded anxiety to the point where I have to quit. I've been trying to play ff14 since 1.0, And i don't want to feel forced out over this like how i felt forced out of WoW over addons and voip.

    So instead of trying to push me aside, mock me, or discredit me. Look at this from my side of the spectrum. I work hard to play well, make sure i'm not being a burden, make sure I'm geared well. I ask for tips, advice, practice content, practice playing. So what if i dislike parsers, that my personal opinion. I still do all I can to play well.
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    Last edited by Azazua_azura; 12-02-2015 at 07:46 AM.

  2. #192
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    Another thing about those who support the PPA (Pro-Parser Agenda). Babies do not possess the motor skills or cognitive skills to do top tier dps. Parsers would single out these babies, leading to them getting vote kicked. Therefore if you support the PPA you hate babies.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    when you tell someone to stop fearing something because it's a baseless fear based on their perception, not only are you telling that person how to think, but you're also implying that their perception is skewed.
    First off, you're really good at ignoring the parts that bring your argument down. But secondly, let me just say to this part I quoted, yes, yes I am. Because their perception is skewed. That's why when someone says they "disproved" their fear, it's because their perception was skewed and that person showed them how it really is.

    On telling people how to think, that's a principle our entire society is based on. Telling people what is and isn't ok to think. A serial killer thinks murdering is fun. Am I to not tell them it's not ok to do that because it's telling them how to think? When someone says they don't want parsers for some reason that is not reasonable, I am going to tell them how to think, because the way they're thinking is incorrect in the context of the conversation. Let's just stop ALL debate and differing opinions because no one should tell anyone how to think!

    Does it stink someone somewhere got their feelings hurt for something that isn't the parser's fault and they fear parsers now? Yeah. But it's not the parser's fault, so, and this will sound a little harsh, I don't care about their fear. It's misplaced based on principles of logic and similar examples in history and is not worth holding back the rest of the playerbase for.

    Nothing you said addresses my arguments to you. You're reaching now.
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  4. #194
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    Or you could just you know, discuss your rotations with other people who play the same class. Usually a pretty standard rotation available on the internet, and they figure it out by just... playing .... the ... game.... and talking with other players who play the same class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    I would like to sincerely apologize to OP...

    You simply asked for a tool to help monitor YOUR own dps, and no one else's so that you are not the burden for your savage group and look how quickly your thread was turned into a argument on topics that have little to nothing to do with your simple request...

    I do hope that one of your PC friends can help you out and good luck to you on your raiding.
    The irony not withstanding of course is that he was almost instantly harassed by anti-parser people who then brought up arguments about fearing harassment and a whole bunch of other anecdotal reasons why he shouldn't be able to see his own performance numbers.

    This game desperately needs a parser. A parser doesn't encourage anything. It is a tool.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by melisande View Post
    Or you could just you know, discuss your rotations with other people who play the same class. Usually a pretty standard rotation available on the internet, and they figure it out by just... playing .... the ... game.... and talking with other players who play the same class.
    Except the OP isn't asking about knowing his rotation specifically and not all performance measures are rotation based. Hes trying to improve his performance in a specific instance in regards to savage without having to rely on others to know his numbers.
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupiduglytaru View Post
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    I am sorry that you have to be treated like a second class player because of a few safe space anti-parser ideologues.

    I feel like the pro-parser crowd is gaining traction and hopefully you will get a parser sooner rather than later.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kona_Nightwind View Post
    Another thing about those who support the PPA(Pro-Parser Agenda). Babies do not possess the motor skills or cognitive skills to do top tier dps. Parsers would single out these babies, leading to them getting vote kicked. Therefore if you support the PPA you hate babies.


    Look how scary they can be tho =x
    Can we ban baby clowns from the game? I find them highly triggering and very problematic. This game needs more baby clown free safe spaces.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Since I am unaware of the actual realities in every situation, I can hardly say anything other than perceived realities. I can say that I am aware of the realities in a number of cases, and their fears were quite justified by reality, not simply perception. You also have to consider that fear can be a learned behavior based on a previous negative experience of actual events, which may predispose a person to fear similar situations in the future.

    Also, I said perceived reality because every experience and feeling we have in life is based on our perception of what happens around us. My perceived reality can be the sun rising in the morning because I perceive the warmth of it's light. Of course the sun is in fact rising casting the warm light, so it's both reality and my perceived reality. You can use wordplay to quibble with how someone feels, but at the end of the day, when you tell someone to stop fearing something because it's a baseless fear based on their perception, not only are you telling that person how to think, but you're also implying that their perception is skewed.
    Is this what the foundation your anti-parser argument is? Semantics?

    You can blow-hard all you like on some symantical argument, but it does not change anything in regards to this:

    http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...=68216&id=5382

    You can't dance or argue around the fact that harassment is an actionable offense. Parser harassment is not exempt from this rule. It's both reportable and a banable offense. There is no other reassurance that can be provided and players can't be made any safer than they already are.

    Parsers are here and they are not going anywhere. PC players will continue to use them with impunity. You just want to keep players like the OP under your thumb for the most absurd reasons.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post



    Is this what the foundation your anti-parser argument is? Semantics?

    You can blow-hard all you like on some symantical argument, but it does not change anything in regards to this:

    http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...=68216&id=5382

    You can't dance or argue around the fact that harassment is an actionable offense. Parser harassment is not exempt from this rule. It's both reportable and a banable offense. There is no other reassurance that can be provided and players can't be made any safer than they already are.

    Parsers are here and they are not going anywhere. PC players will continue to use them without any impunity. You just want to keep players like the OP under your thumb for the most absurd reasons.

    This response is so perfect. Square give this player a wit bandana or something. He just won the internet.
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  9. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona_Nightwind View Post
    Another thing about those who support the PPA (Pro-Parser Agenda). Babies do not possess the motor skills or cognitive skills to do top tier dps. Parsers would single out these babies, leading to them getting vote kicked. Therefore if you support the PPA you hate babies.
    Maybe these babies should just git gut? This isn't some freaking game, this is serious business, you can't carry deadweights around all the time. If they don't perform, these babies will have to find a different job, simple as that. There are other jobs out there where you don't drag everyone down with your toaster skills. Should be common courtesy, what are the parents even teaching their brats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Maybe these babies should just git gut? This isn't some freaking game, this is serious business, you can't carry deadweights around all the time. If they don't perform, these babies will have to find a different job, simple as that. There are other jobs out there where you don't drag everyone down with your toaster skills. Should be common courtesy, what are the parents even teaching their brats?
    Yeah! What parents even allow their babies to play games!?
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