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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Except the cost of storage and servers has dropped significantly since then too? The MMO market is also far larger than it was backin the day, that's why we aren't being charged $25+ a month. You know why AAA games still cost $60 even though their budgets are significantly higher than ever before? They sell far, far more copies. Let's take Bethesda for example, Morrowind has sold around 4 million copies over the span of what now, a little over 13 years. Fallout 4 has sold 12 million in the span on a month, at its full price. We aren't being charged more because they're making more, simple as that. FFXIV has sold 5 million copies on its own, sure it doesn't match up to the behemoth that is WoW, but WoW got lucky in that they released a fantastic and casual (at the time) game. According to a quick Google search, FFXI had 500,000 at its peak, that's the average we have in FFXIV at all times. Pair that up with retainers, fantasias, server transfers, name changes, and other services, and you get very large profit margins. Cash shop onto that? You're practically printing money... to burn on 10 year projects cough FFXV cough.
    The cost of storage has decreased, but inflation has also increased the cost of goods and services from the turn of the millennia. In addition to inflation, costs of production and advertising have sky rocketed.

    Using http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc....998&year2=2015, you can see that buying power has decreased by a factor of 1/4 since 1998. That means that a dollar back then is worth a dollar and a quarter now. Our subs, just by inflation, should be around $20.00. That's just looking at inflation. It's not a fart stretch that $25 is a realistic price for a sub when you consider the increased costs in development and getting your game noticed.

    You know what would happen if they charged $15? People wouldn't subscribe, simple as that. They'd move to WoW, or whatever other option there is, or quit playing MMOs altogether. I'm not a pro cash shop person, I've spent a bit here and there (mostly) on Fantasia though. I'm fine with the services, fine with just about everything on there except NPC clothing (just a personal problem), but it has nothing to do with MMO costs rising. SE is so cheap that they refuse to give Yoshida a proper team, he's stated many times that his development team is far smaller than traditional ones. You could make that argument about other MMOs, sure. SWTOR has around 800+ people working on it, and it shows. Huge worlds, entirely voice acted, better cutscenes, nicer visuals, etc (the actual MMO is lacking though), but for FFXIV? Not a chance.
    I agree, I agree that if SE charged more than $15, that they would lose subscribers. That's why we have a cash shop, to off-set the financial needs of the dev team.

    Personally, I'm fine with it, as long as they don't add new items that took actual development time. I seen people posting that it's pathetic that they're selling pre existing items and not new ones and I'm thinking, "What?". Maybe I'm looking at their posts wrong, but it seems like they want to take dev. time away from the game, and pour it into new items for the cash shop... why, to justify spending your money? Would you not prefer the new items go into the game? I'm glad that the new mounts are obtainable in game, or through recruit-a-friend. Every mount model is obtainable in-game, apart from Sleipnir, and so far they haven't pulled another Sleipnir so we're relatively safe. The problem will start being a problem when they do something similar to Sleipnir, or rather, an entirely new mount similar to WoW. WoW's most recent mount cost $30 I believe, what a joke.
    I agree

    Edit: Also, where did you get the $25 from? I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but the inflation calculator I used suggests a little over $17
    See above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serret View Post
    Indeed, I absolutely agree with you on the fact that there are no free lunches in this world. Which is why, they are not getting one from me. Over 8€ for a rehue? It's not a reasonable price.

    So many entitled people in this thread? Again I absolutely agree with you. People are entitled to voice their opinion and voice their feedback. Especially considering the FFXIV community tends to be very loyal compared to other communities.

    We're not expecting "free lunches", but after spending over 150€ in this videogame, I think customers deserve a bit more respect and not get ripped off with an 8€ rehue + monthly retainer subscription over "server issues".

    Now excuse me while I go read articles on the interwebz to "get lernd" on how to better spend 8€.
    MMO's are one of the few markets where you can literally buy endless hours of entertainment for your measly sub fee. If you're bent out of shape over a re-skinned mount for eight euros, you have bigger issues than I am unqualified to address. Let the people with the appreciation for the mount and/or the extra cash to subsidize your sub fee.

    You are excused.
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    Last edited by zosia; 12-02-2015 at 04:35 AM.