HARD four-man dungeons

[Blim]

That's a really good suggestion. I have an irregular schedule and it would definitely make it easier if there were 4 man raids. Right now, I've given up trying thordan EX/ alex savage (until they're DFable) etc cause its just not possible to find 7 other people at the right time to do it and 7 other people who are at the same phase as you.

[Azazua_azura]

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I WANT THIS ADDED!!!!

I would love a full spectrum of content foir all group sizes. This was 1 reason i loved ff11 due to having a spectrum of content. I fully support this.

[Aomine1992]

Yea with my work schedule the 8 man statics never match up with my schedule which has left me with the rest fending for learning party's for end game content T_T which never works out and a lot of ppl don't know what progression mean after they rage quit after dying twice or making up these dumb excuses (I.e. I have to take my dog out) why join progression if you have to leave 15 mins later...

4 man would work well

[Arrak]

Add challenge mode dungeons. Same mobs, same maps, just different strats, maybe different pull combos and some changes to boss mechanics without affecting animations too much. Add a timer and achievements for different clear times... With reused content made challenging, it shouldn't take that much time to develop. Hell, use player testing. Many games do PTRs.

Edit: With current naming conventions we could have something like Stone Vigil Extreme or Stone Vigil Savage. Just a more challenging rehash of SV Hard or even SV Normal. Force ilvl sync, make slower clear time achivements easier to get with the best clear time achievements much more difficult. Give a title or something for clearing all of the Extreme Mode 4 Mans with the fastest clear achievements. We don't need a pet or mount or new gear to drop.

[Thayos]

Add challenge mode dungeons. Same mobs, same maps, just different strats, maybe different pull combos and some changes to boss mechanics without affecting animations too much. Add a timer and achievements for different clear times... With reused content made challenging, it shouldn't take that much time to develop. Hell, use player testing. Many games do PTRs.

This could be a great way to reuse some of the game's older content, for sure... though I'd love it if true dungeon raids weren't so linear, which would require some additional decision making when running these as endgame. Maybe have one route be slightly easier and lead to tomes, while the other route is a little tougher and leads to gear. Endless possibilities.

[Ninster]

Add challenge mode dungeons. Same mobs, same maps, just different strats, maybe different pull combos and some changes to boss mechanics without affecting animations too much. Add a timer and achievements for different clear times... With reused content made challenging, it shouldn't take that much time to develop. Hell, use player testing. Many games do PTRs.

Edit: With current naming conventions we could have something like Stone Vigil Extreme or Stone Vigil Savage. Just a more challenging rehash of SV Hard or even SV Normal. Force ilvl sync, make slower clear time achivements easier to get with the best clear time achievements much more difficult. Give a title or something for clearing all of the Extreme Mode 4 Mans with the fastest clear achievements. We don't need a pet or mount or new gear to drop.

I've been curious about is what pre-nerf AK and PS (and anything else) were like: bam, we got AK Savage and PS Savage for instant ideas!

[Jetstream_Fox]

I'd love 4 player raids/harder dungeons honestly it would be a really great addition. I don't like how raiding is in this game, I find it boring and honestly just glorified boss/add fights, having to grab 7 other people when I myself have a rotating schedule is just so tiring for a single drop.

[Nav_Fae]

I thought there's been a demand for 4-man raids/actual harder 4 man dungeons for a long time now???

[Jetstream_Fox]

I thought there's been a demand for 4-man raids/actual harder 4 man dungeons for a long time now???

It has but somehow SE thinks this should take a backstage. Just another reason why they need to expand their development team rather then reallocate resources.

[Ehr]

I've been curious about is what pre-nerf AK and PS (and anything else) were like: bam, we got AK Savage and PS Savage for instant ideas!

I still don't understand why they removed the bees from from Demon Wall or reduced the damage on Imminent Catastrophe in Anantaboga. Please give us more difficult dungeons SE.