Absolute frustration at not being able to see my own DPS (ps4)

[randysquirrel]

Don't really have much to add to this, just give us a parser.

Thordan this weekend, went in with a pug to try and get some people their clear. P1 boss gets to 78% o.0.
I have no way of knowing who was pulling such pathetically low numbers, so we just disband. GG.

I don't see how there is even any discussion about it at this point

[Arrak]

If you're raiding with PC players, FFlogs is an amazing way to analyze your DPS. There's a massive pool of players to compare with and plenty of stats and analysis to play around with. While it will never be able to give you on the fly results, that a parser will, it's a good alternative until they release the API.

[ruskie]

If you're raiding with PC players, FFlogs is an amazing way to analyze your DPS. There's a massive pool of players to compare with and plenty of stats and analysis to play around with. While it will never be able to give you on the fly results, that a parser will, it's a good alternative until they release the API.

I just wish it would let you view your own parses from all the uploaded - even unlisted ones and private ones and such - but only your bit. As it is currently you are relying on people making them public - and if they parse low some won't make them public.

[ShanaShirayuki]

I don't know why people keep responding to Azazua. All he does in every single thread that even hints at an inkling of pro parser use is spread misinformation and fear-mongers, even when those such as Odett, Archaell, and Aomine1992 calmly point out the benefits of parsers.

Then again he sees all pro parser players as such:

[Arrak]

I just wish it would let you view your own parses from all the uploaded - even unlisted ones and private ones and such - but only your bit. As it is currently you are relying on people making them public - and if they parse low some won't make them public.

Ask your raid members to upload as "unlisted". They can still link you to the individual report, it just won't be listed on their page and shouldn't be ranked.

[ruskie]

Ask your raid members to upload as "unlisted". They can still link you to the individual report, it just won't be listed on their page and shouldn't be ranked.

Yeah but that's annoying. I have an account on fflogs so I can easily see all the reports that have been posted that include me since I join farm parties and other places. And it would be nice if those marked as unlisted would be registered there as well for easy viewing - but as said only for my own bit. It would still be unlisted to anyone without an account or link to it.

But it has been helpful what I had to figure out where I can improve. That and of course getting comfortable with the fights themselves.

[Sylve]

And for those with the tinfoil hats, I've played WoW

And you realize that with the state WoW is in right now, nobody gives a crap about DPS because the only place its required is WoWs equivalent of Savage Raiding because 5 man bosses die in less than 30 seconds and LFR is kiddies first raid experience that you almost cant fail.

DPS will always be important to raiding content, and yet we're capable of clearing content without parsers as we are now.
I've never needed a parser to improve myself either. Is it handy to sometimes be told what my actual damage is in relation to others in my party? Sure. But thats just confirming something i can already see in how quickly my target is losing HP.

This isn't a solo game, the DPS Jobs don't all do exactly the same DPS output as each other. Nor is it expected.

The problem has never been Parsers themselves. it has always been on the players heads for putting that damage meter up on a pedestal and venerating it as the sole indicator of winning or failing.
Square knows for a fact that as soon as a parser or meter is available in any way, shape or form, players will begin to judge each other by that meter.
Even a strictly personal meter can have negative communal impact, as there will inevitably be those who demand screenshot or video proof of you doing XYZ amounts of DPS in order to join a party.

In a contest between having meters/parsers freely available and not having them, I'll take not having them because i don't feel like dealing with the things i dealt with in WoW, especially up around the mid WOTLK and early Cataclysm eras. Specifically, people being booted from raids for falling short of "expected" DPS numbers by as little as doing 9900 DPS instead of 10000 flat despite the fact that the boss died. Not to mention those who would constantly post their DPS into chat and belittle everyone else for not being as "good" as they are. Also, it was fun when

No parsers, no drama. I'd rather less drama.

Also, Odett, you do realize that If I'm doing twice the DPS as the Ninja i will eventually surpass him on the enmity again, even if i do use something to reduce my Enmity. Especially in a long fight. Not only that but you can easily check the Enmity list before any such Enmity Reductions happen.

[Aquaslash]

I don't know why people keep responding to Azazua. All he does in every single thread that even hints at an inkling of pro parser use is spread misinformation and fear-mongers, even when those such as Odett, Archaell, and Aomine1992 calmly point out the benefits of parsers.

Then again he sees all pro parser players as such:

C'mon man. Attack the argument, not the poster. Let's be better than that

[Arrak]

And you realize that with the state WoW is in right now, nobody gives a crap about DPS because the only place its required is WoWs equivalent of Savage Raiding because 5 man bosses die in less than 30 seconds and LFR is kiddies first raid experience that you almost cant fail.

You say that DPS only matters in WoW in Mythic, yet the majority of the people who want a parser are on PS4 and doing Savage. They don't want it to belittle people. They just want to improve themselves in the most challenging content. There's no fun in gloating to people who don't parse and aren't putting up competitive numbers anyway. It must be depressing to think so poorly of the community here.

[MrsFluffyButt]

If not seeing how much DPS you can pump makes you 'frustrated', then...I can't even.