Absolute frustration at not being able to see my own DPS (ps4)

[Azazua_azura]

Are you misinformed or purposely spouting crap? I play with two addons that actually affect gameplay, and they are DBM and Recount. Surprise surprise, not 30, not 20, not 10, not 5, but 2.

WoW vids say other wise lol. I watch WoW vids on occassion and see wall to wall addons, just because you 2 you are not the entire WoW community. And I'm not for or against parser I just don't like the crap attitude, and people do give a dam about leveling content and parser use. Every time I see pre casting mages I ask why, every reply was "dps", even though its being problematic. Not to mention tanks in full str gear full pulling dungeons not caring if their hp drops like a rock giving their healer wrist issues trying to keep them @ 50% hp.

And personally speaking having a high dps doesn't mean your a great player just a hard hitting 1, I rather have people master the content instead of trying to zerg it down with arbitrary numbers.

Its not always players not wanting to be outed for supposedly low dps, its the crap attitude that comes with it.


I honestly do not play with any damage numbers, i just don't care anymore. I improve just fine by watching other players, asking questions, and if able looking up a guide or just practing the content or my class. In reality DPS check is just a buzz word. Playing a game is playing a game, it don't take much to learn content or how to play.

Also please explain how people played ff11 in japan @ launch, considering it was ps2 only? This game though slower paced combat also has "dps check" fights and content.

[Colorful]

WoW vids say other wise lol.

Those addons are for convenience, QoL and the like. Your exact statement was that WoW players require that many addons, when it's not the case, not even close to being the case. Of course more people use different addons, more addons, but they're not required to be good, nor are they recommended (I find it hard to play when 90% of my screen is UI). People care about their maximum DPS, not yours. When I go into DREX I try to push out as much DPS as possible, sometimes I see someone doing 600 DPS but I move on, I don't scream at them, the same goes for WoW.

You do know that part of mastering content includes pushing out huge amounts of DPS while executing mechanics? 99% of the content has very simple mechanics, there's no mastering to be done, you run it once and you know everything. Extreme Primals is different, you run it 4-5 times and you have the mechanics down to a T, then you've learnt it, mastering is when you can do all that while pushing out maximum DPS. There's always going to be bad apples, parser or not. I've seen people claim other people are dragging the party down when they're the ones doing the least DPS.

[Azazua_azura]

@ colorful

My experience from wow is way different then yours. I was given a full list of 10 addons i HAD TO download, but due to sharing the computer with 5-6 family members i couldn't. The reaction i got from explaining was i was lazy. And, did it ever occur to yoy that, you maxing out ur dps is being a problem to the group? Like getting a fresh tank? I have seen and experienced alot of stupidity in dungeons from 15-60 its mind boggling all for sake of dps. Maxing out is 1/4th of gameplay the other 2/3 are a mix of learning the content, teamwork and communication. Maxing dps should be last on your list and only in preformed groups.

When ppl go ham on df groups or random pf groups i call it "soloing ina group" been saying that since this whole parser bs started on ff11.

I personally feel there is no reason to out people, you have no idea who they are, what their doing, or where they live/what their net is likwe. You have no idea how new they are to the content, or to the class/job is on the content. If your only reaction is "you are the weakest link, goodbye" <kick> then you are being part of the issue.

It is also tiring seeing pro parser players rant up and down about dps, but also come up and say "its not my job to teach", it is again being part of the problem.

Again im not for or against parser, just the above attitude.

And said people claiming "its only cuz u suck and don't wanna be outed" I'm sorry but that is having a crappy attitude.

[Colorful]

@ colorful

My experience from wow is way different then yours. I was given a full list of 10 addons i HAD TO download, but due to sharing the computer with 5-6 family members i couldn't. The reaction i got from explaining was i was lazy. And, did it ever occur to yoy that, you maxing out ur dps is being a problem to the group? Like getting a fresh tank? I have seen and experienced alot of stupidity in dungeons from 15-60 its mind boggling all for sake of dps. Maxing out is 1/4th of gameplay the other 2/3 are a mix of learning the content, teamwork and communication. Maxing dps should be last on your list and only in preformed groups.

When ppl go ham on df groups or random pf groups i call it "soloing ina group" been saying that since this whole parser bs started on ff11.

Could you list these 10 addons? I can't possibly think of 10 that could be mandatory, if you're not a very skilled player there are some that may help, but that's still not 10.
Deadly Boss Mods
WeakAuras
Recount/Skada
OmniCC
Tidyplates

Most of these aren't even required, so please, list these 10 addons. As for fresh tanks, I've yet to encounter a tank that was unable to hold aggro in the level 60 dungeons unless I was an idiot and was attacking a different target. Ninja opener causes some issues, but that's a non-issue with Shadewalker. Maxing DPS is secondary to performing mechanics, but if you can't do both at the same time you need to improve, period. You aren't a great player if you can only do one or the other.

[Azazua_azura]

@ random dude who quested the wrong stuff

not what I was meaning. More the stuff he was asked in the recent interviews as mastering the content then worrying about dps.

Which is what I've been saying but most here got it backwards