Astro needs a Nerf in PVP

[Dimitrii]

I think you need to look up what the word "practically" means and re-read my argument because it's very clear you don't have a single clue as to what either means.

You can fall back on semantics if you want I guess since its your only option left at this point seeing as the rest of your argument has already been picked apart by other people. You are probably the only person in this forum that took me saying "unkillable" as literally meaning a job that cannot be damaged or have their hp brought down to zero (as if such a thing existed).

Edit: And no the second half of your post was already addressed by Lorielle so why should I regurgitate points that were already made on the very same page?

[TheWaywardWind]

You can fall back on semantics if you want I guess since its your only option left at this point seeing as the rest of your argument has already been picked apart by other people. You are probably the only person in this forum that took me saying "unkillable" as literally meaning a job that cannot be damaged or have their hp brought down to zero (as if such a thing existed).

"B-but muh semantics"



If you aren't going to bother with a reply with one containing substance rather than just trying to use "semantics" as means of trying to justify your argument, I think we're done here.

Good job on that argument dodge though, A+.

[Dimitrii]

If you aren't going to bother with a reply with one containing substance rather than just trying to use "semantics" as means of trying to justify your argument, I think we're done here.

Good job on that argument dodge though, A+.

Uhh, no. That's not the same thing at all. Why you even tried to draw that parallel is beyond me. Why? Because Selene/Eos can be slept/killed. Their casts are not instant. And it's only just that anyway, a cure. Aspected Benefic is a instant HEAL AND SHIELD(if in Noc Stance...which all AST are).

I don't know about you, but I never saw SCH as the same power levels as AST when it comes to Shield/Healing unless that magical crit happens. But even, dem cast times! They gonna get ya!

This post is literally 4 posts above mine. Why do you feel the need to have me repeat it again when Lorielle had already beaten me to it? Your argument is just flawed stop trying to justify it you cant. You are the only person here still trying to save face. Its getting sad now.

[VirusChris]

I have fought AST in Seal Rocks and they so do need a bloody nerf... I hate hitting with "0" damage on them when they have that shield up. And some videos to show how "awesome" they are at surviving, tanking, distraction, and using the terrain to their advantage to make them nearly unbeatable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdgdMFw6Hpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SQKyksNipk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uagwim949jA

Ignoring the first video's... choice of music... you see so many guys targeting a single AST and they do not go down. True the AST did go down in the end, but a single AST can seriously screw up other teams if they use their healing abilities and terrain to their advantage, no other class can do this.

Tell me how this is not broken or overpowered in the slightest? Should a single class REALLY be able to tank some many attacks like that? Though this player did have very good teamwork and communication skills here, but damn.

[TheWaywardWind]

This post is literally 4 posts above mine. Why do you feel the need to have me repeat it again when Lorielle had already beaten me to it? Your argument is just flawed stop trying to justify it you cant. You are the only person here still trying to save face. Its getting sad now.

Funny how you mention "saving face," yet you desperately reply to each of my comments by using another argument rather than your own because it seems you're incapable of creating one with substance.

"Y-you can't."

Oh, but I did, and your attempts at coat-tailing off of another aren't going to save your case. Rather than attacking the tone of my argument, try again and provide me with one of substance. Until then,

[ZAZX]

Aspected is our one go-to PvP advantage. Take that away from us and well. We have nothing. AoE stun maybe a couple times a match. Oh boy.

Our DPS is downright terrible compared to WHM/SCH, especially SCH. So we can't make it up there. We simply have the worst DPS in the entire game, be it PvP or not. Our strength is our faster and spur of the moment heals. That's our ENTIRE IDENTITY. We're essentially what happens when a Time Mage really loves stars and a game of poker.

Our cards could be our identity in PvP, sure, except they aren't reliable at all. The amount of times enough people are grouped up to make AoE cards worth it is nigh on never. That and we still draw the same card when shuffling so much it could be a drinking game.

And to put on the record, I've had plenty of groups kill me before. If you can't kill an AST, I'm sorry but to put it bluntly you need to learn to PvP rotation, not PvE rotation. That and work together.

[Houston009]

Comedy

The players in those videos almost had me on the floor laughing.

What does Warrior do soon as he comes in contact with AST? Brutal Swing (Stun) GG.
Oh AST is sleep, DRG has time to catch up to AST! Nah, he is going to break the sleep with Piercing Talon GG.
AST is running (no sprint), multiple weapon throws (now resist heavy). Then the AST sprints and proceeds to kite GG.
Many players chasing the AST. WHM hero comes to save the day with bind resisted knock back GG.
That Fester with just Bio on the AST was pretty funny aswell.

Those are only some of the hilarious actions of players in those videos of yours, not to mention in some instances there was a WHM healing the AST aswell. Also, the footage cuts out a lot, it seems to only do it when its obvious he is going to die...

AST is strong, but please pin them against actual skilled players, and if its the same result then scream heavy nerfs!

[Oneiroi]

I have no problem taking out a AST,especially if they're distracted.

[Iagainsti]

Rather than attacking the tone of my argument, try again and provide me with one of substance.

Couldn't help myself xD

[Selli]

ASTs are far from unkillable, I watch them die just as frequently in 24-man as they do in 72-man. Maybe y'all need to recheck your burst rotations.