The new raiding meta is making me want to quit.

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Actually as several people have posted (including quotes from Yoshi-P), the raids are balance around the DPS and tank damage, healer damage is not taken into account. I believe that the tank damage considered in a soloboss fight is what you'd get from 1 tank in DPS stance and 1 in tank stance. if people challenge the content while undergeared, which the leading edge players will, then tank and healer damage becomes more important to help fill the gearing gap.



That's a steaming pile of BS IMHO. You don't get to tell others how to play, at all. I'll tell you why the NA DF and PF scene is floundering, it's because the raiding mentality (aka the current meta) has infected a lot of wannabe raiders and wannabe world first raiders who are not in fact what they want to be. But those players in-turn enforce the end-game meta on players who will NEVER set foot in end-game or raiding - because they don't want to. It makes for a hostile environment. Several of my best in-game friends are long time raiders who've quit the scene because in their opinion, the NA raiding community has become toxic, due to this very issue. The never ending grind of the gear treadmill and raid farming didn't help either.

Rugged/selfish individualism my ass. More like rugged and selfish conformists attempting to make others conform as well. In a sense you're nothing more than a fashion victim falling for the latest fashion (game meta), demanding everyone else become a sheep like you.

You are so wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to begin.

Even in full ilvl 209, You NEED healer dps in a4s. That fight was tuned WITH healer dps being a requirement. You obviously have had absolutely no a4s experience since you gobble up that BS that there are no fights in this game that require healers to dps.

Yes, one of the reasons pf/df are failing is the terrible attitudes and unwillingness to play at a high level of the community. The DF/PF is not their for people to get carried. If people want to play their own special inefficient way, then they can play with their friends privately and gtfo of df/pf. The JP community pf/df works so much better because they respect other players by bringing their A game to any pug or df fight. The opposite is true here in the NA community. People show up in PF/DF expecting to be taught and/or carried.

You're comparing an estimated timeline that has since been revised, with a statement about how they balance and test encounters. Apples and oranges. Try harder.

By virtue of revision, it shows that things were not tuned properly. Try again.