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  1. #11
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    Donjo's Avatar
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 80
    1. If your goal is "get aggro!" or "oh god this enemy is killing me I need Defiance", then Unchained remains a good idea. Discarding it completely because of Fell Cleave is not a good idea, especially before you're Level 60 with some gear. As for rotations to maximize damage, an Unchained rotation remains the same. Get a double Inner Beast in there and call it a day. For Deliverance rotations, it's all about fitting 3 Fell Cleaves in a Berserk. If you use both Vengeance and Raw Intuition(Level 56 Skill) to give stacks during the window, you can also easily fit a fully powered Fracture into Berserk with those 3 Fell Cleaves... but keep an eye on your Storm's Eye timer. Doing too many actions outside of combos will cause it to fall off. Use it twice in a row whenever you think it'll fall off.

    2. The usual Cross Class skills are as follows:

    Provoke
    Convalescence
    Internal Release
    Awareness
    Flash OR Second Wind

    Mix that last slot up with whatever feels like it will be most useful in the current situation.

    3. At level 58, you get a skill called Equilibrium. If used in Defiance, it is a very potent Self Heal. If used in Deliverance, it restores 200 TP. It is on a 60 second timer. This should prevent all TP problems forever

    And, regarding that video Freyyy is pushing down your throat... be wary of it. While I'm sure Mr. Vex means well, his videos are absurdly easy to misinterpret to the point that most people who watch them come out them worse at Tanking than when they began.
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  2. #12
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    And, regarding that video Freyyy is pushing down your throat... be wary of it. While I'm sure Mr. Vex means well, his videos are absurdly easy to misinterpret to the point that most people who watch them come out them worse at Tanking than when they began.
    People who misinterpret this video are very dumb and are most likely not listening to the entirety of the video.
    Here listen to what he says : https://youtu.be/HUXck-0vh5k?t=40m17s until the end of the video.

    I've yet to see anyone who became a worst tank after watching his guide. I always recommend it to anyone asking me anything about WAR in game and it always helps them a LOT and I can assure you that I always see a very positive change in their playstyle after watching it.
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    Last edited by Freyyy; 11-22-2015 at 06:30 AM.

  3. #13
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    Zaranghae's Avatar
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    Nanako Chan
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Honestly I don't need a 40 minute video just to learn a rotation. All I need is basically something like what the maim opener guy posted. I appreciate your contribution though, thanks!
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  4. #14
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    Bashum Gudd
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaranghae View Post
    Honestly I don't need a 40 minute video just to learn a rotation. All I need is basically something like what the maim opener guy posted. I appreciate your contribution though, thanks!
    That's why under the description, there are quick links to whichever rotation you're interested in.
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  5. #15
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    Nanako Chan
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    Lancer Lv 80
    I was wondering if I could wait until I have 5 stacks + maim + 10% vul and just go for a Berserk + Fell Cleave -> Infuriate -> Fell Cleave and then normal rotation.

    Btw I really love Fell Cleave, it's the first WAR animation that actually looks amazing. The sound and colors just give me an orgasm.
    *And finally with Deliverance switching, tanking has become super fun
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    Last edited by Zaranghae; 11-22-2015 at 02:42 PM.

  6. #16
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    Bashum's Avatar
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    Bashum Gudd
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaranghae View Post
    I was wondering if I could wait until I have 5 stacks + maim + 10% vul and just go for a Berserk + Fell Cleave -> Infuriate -> Fell Cleave and then normal rotation.
    You certainly could, but if you want to get that third fell cleave without burning a cooldown, it's better to use berserk to grant the 5th stack after you already have 4 stacks, with maim and the 10% debuff up, and skull sunder/maim already lit up from a heavy swing right before the berserk.

    Sometimes you can even get a berserked fracture after the third cleave before pacification too, which is always nice.
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  7. #17
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    Nanako Chan
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Ohyeah just realized that's the best way for now until I get to 60.

    Also with the large amounts of HP at 60, is it now viable for WARs to go 30 AP in STR?
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  8. #18
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaranghae View Post
    Also with the large amounts of HP at 60, is it now viable for WARs to go 30 AP in STR?
    It has always been the most viable thing to do.
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    Shira Tempest
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    Ridill
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Yes...lets follow a guide of someone who sells runs and has been doing so since SCOB. Is there anything wrong with that? Well that's completely up to how you take it.

    I love how everyone follows people in this community without knowing the reality behind them. I'm not even going to start about Mr. Happy and his LGCY fc....

    Hold on a sec...let me go gear to ilvl300 and post a video on how good I am on a fight that drops lower ilvl gear.
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  10. #20
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    Ralvenom Mahlfusant
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    berserk now is for dps stance, so unchained is a useless skill because you can change the stance with zero cost only vit.
    No, it's not. If you need to be in tank stance for more than enough time to survive a tankbuster, then it worth using Unchained simply to keep your damage from dipping too low.

    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Provoke
    Convalescence
    Internal Release
    Awareness
    Flash OR Second Wind
    I even found Flash isn't useful if you're geared enough. You can just use Overpower. But it is useful before you get enough gear.
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    Last edited by Ralvenom; 11-23-2015 at 02:03 AM.

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