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    WAR Help - Where is a guide?

    I do not see any WAR guides or maybe the titles are misleading but I have some questions regarding these areas:

    1. I just unlocked Fell Cleave and now realize there is an actual rotation or situation CD swapping for every instance. Before FC I was using:
    1st (Already stacked)-> maim -> 10% vul + Berserk + Unchained -> 1st -> 2nd -> 3rd -> 1st -> 2nd -> 3rd -> Inner Beast + Infuriate -> Inner Beast

    Now I am curious if I am going to use Unchained at all if I'm going to be using Berserk for Fell Cleave + Infuriate. Does anyone have a full rotation for a single boss (infinite time)?

    2. Is awareness the last cross CD to have? I was contemplating using featherfoot or internal release

    3. With no TP regen implemented in 3.x I decided to now use Flash when I run out of TP, but I am sacrificing a crossover skill that I could use.

    Please correct me on these 3 areas if the meta has changed, thanks in ahead.
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    berserk now is for dps stance, so unchained is a useless skill because you can change the stance with zero cost only vit.

    awaraness is very useful for awaranes + raw intuition, the flank crits no more and 100% op parry.

    warr have equilibrium, restore a huge chunk of vit in defiance, and in deliverance restore 200 tp, so flash still is usefull but wars have now unlimited tp, featherfoot is useless in high end conten, and internal release is alwais good for warr.
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    Unchained is still very useful tho, when you need to switch to Defiance and you know you're gonna stay in it for at least 20sec, it's completely worth spending your stacks on it.
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    in terms of the skill him self is useful, but the actual war desing and the current meta make this skill very useless because war are can tank in deliverance and defiance for = yeah, this skill now is very rare useful, like when you tank 1 of the 2 knight in thordan and meaby in as2.
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    Hmm, well I am looking to see if it's worth using the CD rotation I mentioned above for Berserk or if I need to use Berserk for a new Deliverance + Fell Cleave rotation

    Would deliverance be:
    1st (Stacked) -> Maim -> 10% Vul + Berserk -> 1st -> 2nd -> 3rd -> 1st -> 2nd -> 3rd -> Fell Cleave + Infuriate -> Fell Cleave
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    You'll have all of your answers in the video I linked earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaranghae View Post
    Would deliverance be:
    1st (Stacked) -> Maim -> 10% Vul + Berserk -> 1st -> 2nd -> 3rd -> 1st -> 2nd -> 3rd -> Fell Cleave + Infuriate -> Fell Cleave
    This is actually (almost) a PvP rotation for high dmg output. You don't have it all worked out, but if you want to know the best way to maximize your Dps using War, I suggest going to the PvP forums and looking up the PvP rotations.

    That being said, implementing this rotation in a fight in to a universal deal. It really depends on what you're doing. If you're Main Tanking, and the fight requires more mitigation, than you'd do better to stick with Inner Beast, since Fell Cleave does nothing to regenerate health and does not buff you against further damage. Warriors are still the squishiest Tanks in the game in therms of Damage Mitigation, and ignoring what few defensive buffs you have can give a Healer a heart attack. Play to the situation. If you're expecting dmg, stick with your Inner Beast. If it's a weaker fight, go to town with Fell Cleave. If you're Off Tanking, same thing. Fell Cleave all day.

    As for cross skills. Awareness is now absolutely AMAZING for Warriors. You can pop it with Raw Intuition to completely ignore the positional Crits. The one downside for it is that the duration timers don't quite line up, so there will be a 5 second gap in the beginning or the end at which time you are vulnerable and need to be careful. Regardless, Awareness and Internal Release are cross class skills you should be using for War.

    As for your TP issue. I, personally, don't usually have an issue with Tp on Warrior. I keep Flash on for those "just in case" moments (like if Ravana's shields prevent me from hitting him directly, for example), but I don't actually use it all that much because I usually don't have to. It's possible you're using overpower too much, or maybe you're not breaking up your Tp expenditure enough with your Tier 4 Infuriate abilities, but I wouldn't be able to tell without actually seeing you tank. I'd say, just try to be conscious of it on a run, and figure out where you're losing TP so you can adjust your play style.
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    A good rotation for war in dps is when you pull off 3 fell cleaves in the berserk duration. And there are a few way to pull that off.

    Raw intuition is best friend with berserk as the have the same 90 sec cold down.

    A rotation could look like this:
    HS - SS - BB - HS - Maim - SE (crit buff) - HS (berserk) - fell cleave (infuriate) - fell cleave - Maim - SE (raw) - HS - SS - BB - fell cleave

    You should be able to pull is off with a gcd around 2.4

    There are other ways to pull it off, with the use of vengeance and other skills.
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    my rotation for berserk is:
    maim(3-4 stacks)-> bloodbath-> storm eye (4-5 stacks)-> internal release-> heavy swing-> berserk (last stack)-> fell cleave-> infuriate-> fell cleave-> maim(1stack)-> raw intuition or vengeance (2stack)-> storm eye (3stack)-> heavy swing-> skull sunder (4stacks)-> butcher block (5stacks)-> fell cleave.

    very easy.
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