Patch 3.1 and the Problems with a Two Tier Model of Content

[raela]

The whole idea of -hard- content seems to have gone out the wayside in this expansion. There is only casual and extreme, and there is nothing to bridge the gap and provide a sense of progression for the average player. That's why you have anger about new players trying Savage, or Ex primals. These people really aren't skilled enough for those fights, but they want something more challenging then facerolling dungeons, and there is nowhere to learn now.

I'm guessing you've never landed into Alex NM on DF with them? That and void ark provide challenge for that sort of player.

[SerCypher]

I'm guessing you've never landed into Alex NM on DF with them? That and void ark provide challenge for that sort of player.

I have never seen either of those fights run out the timer with wipes. Which is fine! I'm not saying they should be harder.

I am saying they don't provide a challenge, and there should be fights that do besides the overtuned savage fights.