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  1. #11
    Player
    Melocke's Avatar
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    Mel Brand
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    It really doesn't matter - if the healer wants to do it, great, but it's not expected at all, and they would probably do more dps casting something else.

    And to people saying "use brutal swing during pacification!" - that is dumb, why wouldn't you use it when you have berserk up lol
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  2. #12
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    Miranda Madison
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    I will esuna it as soon as I see it.
    5 seconds not being to do anything could mean death
    I take no chances. I have the spell, its there.. I will use it
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  3. #13
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    I will esuna it as soon as I see it.
    5 seconds not being to do anything could mean death
    I take no chances. I have the spell, its there.. I will use it
    I'm sorry, if the Warrior not being able to use most skills for 5 seconds is death, the healer certainly has better things to do than to esuna it.
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  4. #14
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntington View Post
    My only answer to this, and not to you personally poster, is that as someone who secondary mains WAR, I think I can only recall one time when a BRD gave me Warden on a pull, most other times I see them give it to a WAR, the WAR has no idea how to use that buff or they just mistime it.
    As a bard main I will ask war's I run with regulary when they pop beserk. When they tell me N-GCDs in I just go... ohh so warden's is useless for you at that point then. If I do see a war poping it among the first things though if we wipe I'll try and put it on them duing the pull timer.
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  5. #15
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    Calypsx's Avatar
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    Caly Umbra
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 90
    My dps spells will more likely be more effective than those 5 seconds. If I can I will but I have a lot more things I would rather put first.
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  6. #16
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_Lenderson View Post
    Big deal or no?
    No. If 5 seconds is going to make or break raid wide dps then I think you have bigger issues to worry about. Also BRD can use Wanderer's Paean ahead of time. I commend any brd that does this.
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  7. #17
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    Not your priority
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  8. #18
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    Character
    Xyasreau Borlaaq
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    In regards to if it is worth it or not:

    Single Target

    Aero III (1GCD) MP Cost 707 = 370 Pot. 407 True Pot.

    Esuna (1GCD) MP Cost 619 or 0 = 2 Warrior GCD's (Usually Heavy Swing > Maim/Sunder) = 340/350(150+190/200) Pot. 459/472.5 True Pot.

    Multi Target

    Aero III = 407*X True Pot.

    Esuna = Overpower x2 = 300*X True Pot.

    TLDR(???): Not necessary if you don't value absolute min-maxing.
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    Last edited by FallenWings; 11-18-2015 at 06:59 PM. Reason: idk

  9. #19
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    Zhevi Moui
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    I agree that if the WAR has an issue for 5 seconds, he really should be worrying about something else than this tiny debuff being on for 5 seconds.

    If I see it and have time, I will remove it. If the guy has an annoying makro and it is just a normal dungeon run, I will ignore it (unless I feel like being nice).

    Seriously, I never had a good WAR die from Pacification. If he sucks that much he will be dead before it kicks in anyway and can find a different party to annoy.
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    Last edited by Chessala; 11-18-2015 at 06:45 PM.

  10. #20
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    It realy depends most of the time if a WAR needs the esuna/leech, they ask for it or use the macro, otherwise, I do not pay any attention to it. Aside from FC members, I have never seen anyone ask for a esuna.
    For me it depends on:
    - Am I busy healing? If the answer is Yes, no esuna for the warrior.
    - Am I doing alot of dps, because there is a dps check? Then I wont use esuna on the warrior.
    - Do I have enough MP to use the esuna on the warrior? If the answer is NO, then I iwll not use esuna on the warrior.

    Otherwise, I do not see any reason to not use the esuna, the skill is there, so why not use it?
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    Last edited by Laerune; 11-18-2015 at 06:55 PM.

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