Esuna on Warrior?

[AlphaFox]

I always try to time it so I can help the WAR and remove it but I guess lag or w.e, I'll cast to remove it as soon as it pops, then nothing. So end up casting a 2nd time but then he only had like 1-2 secs meaning, to me, it was a waste of time. Sucks more so when you try to be that healer who notices the Berserk countdown and try to clear it just as it pops up.

[KaedrianLiang]

As a frequent warrior. IDGAF if i get cleansed or not. That's why i don't have a macro.

[Avidria]

My only answer to this, and not to you personally poster, is that as someone who secondary mains WAR, I think I can only recall one time when a BRD gave me Warden on a pull, most other times I see them give it to a WAR, the WAR has no idea how to use that buff or they just mistime it.

Paean lasts 30 seconds while berserk lasts 20. That means they have a 10 second window to cast berserk after I put the shield on them. So yeah, it usually gets mistimed. The 3 second cast time also means that casting it any other time than right before pull probably isn't worth it as well. :/

As whm, I try to dispel it if I can. It doesn't take priority over healing or other debuffs, though.

[adn]

I play both healer and WAR and it is all dependent on what is happening.

100% of the responsibility rests on the WAR player to time Berserk appropriately so they don't end up Pacified when they need to get aggro or pick up adds.


For the healer, if it's between somebody dying and dispelling Pacification, obviously the dispel is not happening.
A more complicated situation is if both the healer and WAR are DPSing, then it comes down to "is casting Esuna a group DPS increase over just using my GCD to cast Broil/Stone3 etc." and that's dependent on too many variables to really say.

As a healer I dispel Pacification when I can, but when I play my WAR it doesn't really bother me if it doesn't get dispelled. It helps a lot of healers if you make a macro that tells the party when Berserk is about to wear off, please dispel Pacification if you can, etc.

[karateorangutang]

This has been said a hundred times probably.

When i smack berserk on WAR it is on me whether to deal with the effects. If I get one then awesome, if not then it's really not a big deal. I don't macro it because the macro hinders the performance of the ability itself, so its not a good tradeoff to get get a possible esuna instead of increased performance on the button.

Bottom line: Pacification from Berserk is on the WAR and noone else. If you feel charitable... then you'll probably get my commendation.

[Naliee]

Nope. And let me tell you about this WAR I had some weeks ago in A1 who SPAMMED his Berserk macro. BERSERK PLEASE CLEANSE ME IN 5 SECONDS <annoying sound 102837464>.

Needless to say I told him never ever to use that macro again and he never got cleanse from me or other healer.

[bounddreamer]

As a warrior, I don't want you to waste your time or MP on removing Pacification. It's five seconds. Half the time when you get an esuna off, it's already gone. I don't have a macro for Berserk because I really don't care if you remove it or not. If you do, awesome; if you don't, I know you had better things to do.

As a healer, I remove it when I can. But it's not my first priority.

[Catwho]

If I see it up and I'm not actively casting anything else (e.g. a big cure on another person or even the tank) - then I will gladly remove it.

Otherwise you're just going to have to pout and then pick up in 5 seconds.

[Iagainsti]

As a warrior, I don't want you to waste your time or MP on removing Pacification. It's five seconds. Half the time when you get an esuna off, it's already gone. I don't have a macro for Berserk because I really don't care if you remove it or not. If you do, awesome; if you don't, I know you had better things to do.

My Warrior Approves this message; More often than not my Brutal Swing is OGC and RI is up to spend those measly 5 secs eeking out a bit of damage and building a stack. I miss nothing.

[StouterTaru]

So warriors have no abilities to use while they are pacified? You have to subtract what they could have been doing if they still had the debuff to your calculations.

Those oGCD abilities (Brutal Swing and Mercy Stroke) would be used anyway.

Mercy Stroke should have been used during Berserk unless your timing is off, that leaves Brutal Swing.

Brutal Swing does not affect how many GCD skills you fire off. With or without Brutal Swing 5 seconds is 2 GCD skills. If you are holding on to Brutal Swing to have it during Pacification you are doing it wrong.

Regardless of that, it isn't a big deal to remove it or leave it. You've just built up a ton of hate if you're tanking, if adds spawn you still have Flash and Provoke.