Alexander: Who thought this was a good idea??

[Cuervo78]

I don't want to sound like that person here, but how is this different from rolling loot in any other instance?

Because everyone can roll need on everything, for normal loot you usually just comptete with players that share your main stat

[Vaer]

I don't want to sound like that person here, but how is this different from rolling loot in any other instance?

You have need/greed protection on full pieces of gear based on the job/role you are playing so that immediately eliminates some competition. With full pieces of gear you narrow down the amount of people based on role then job to around ~1-2 based on party composition, more if you have more of the same type of DPS. If it's free for all the potential is you have to roll against 7 people every time which lowers your chance of winning.

[Nekodar]

You have need/greed protection on full pieces of gear based on the job/role you are playing so that immediately eliminates some competition. With full pieces of gear you narrow down the amount of people based on role then job to around ~1-2 based on party composition, more if you have more of the same type of DPS. If it's free for all the potential is you have to roll against 7 people every time which lowers your chance of winning.

While you have that sort of "protection" in normal need/greed, you can also end up running it over and over and never actually see anything you can need on in those cases. It balances out.
Be able to need only a few items out of a large loot pool, or be able to need everything from a small loot pool.

[CrimsonThunder]

RNG has no quarter, it favours no one. We plebians can never hope to understand it's divine will.

[Vaer]

While you have that sort of "protection" in normal need/greed, you can also end up running it over and over and never actually see anything you can need on in those cases. It balances out.
Be able to need only a few items out of a large loot pool, or be able to need everything from a small loot pool.

Honestly rolling vs 2-ish people on stuff that might not even drop seems better to me than having potentially one person winning everything and 7 other people in the group getting nothing. I mean this system is great for PF and friends but it's doesn't seem to work well with DF.